ARES versus COLOSSUS

Colossus has been said to be one of the strongest guys on the planet a few times. And that was when he was a teenager.

Originally posted by olympian
Do we honestly use that term other than talking about the strength elite?

I thought TopTier referd to more than just physical strength.

Originally posted by olympian
...wich is what we are talking about. Top league of strength. Hes not in it. Neither in figthing record and neither in lifting.

He lifted the Blob. I'm sure others can give you examples of his strength.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus has been said to be one of the strongest guys on the planet a few times. And that was when he was a teenager.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I thought TopTier referd to more than just physical strength.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He lifted the Blob. I'm sure others can give you examples of his strength.

Originally posted by olympian
The moment he starts to match the records of guys like Namor and Wonderman, among others then he gets rised up to the elite. Being called one of the strongest beings on the planet doesnt make you an elite. Ben its also one of the strongest guys and hes not there.

You can use the term for several categories. Speed, Strength, Endurance, etc. You just need to specify it out. In this case we are discussing strength, so its "top tier" of strength.

At Marvel, while Colossus is stronger now than before, he still doesnt have the record. Hence the majority of the writers dont place him as high as the others. Same with Ben.

Originally posted by olympian
The same handbooks that once said that Hercules was stronger than the Hulk? They arent often accurate.

Comic feats? He doesnt have a top tier record, so hes not cl 100. And let it note im talking of cl 100 as = top tier. Not just the ability to lift close to a hundred tons or something. Pll below the top tier can also do that.

Uh, Herc's strenght is higher than Hulk's base strenght. No question about it. How many times has Herc been put above Hulk in the strenght departement? More times than Colossus has been stated to be class 100?

Why the hell are you referring class 100 as the top tier? What's the logic here? Technically class 7, immeasurable strenght, is the top tier.

Since when has Ares been part of the so called class100toptier?
Maybe you shouldn't make up terms like that just to avoid confusion, as many here consider Colossus a cl 100er. AFAIK class 100 doesn't indicate top tier, it indicates strenght. Nothing else, nothing less.

in mighty avengers 1 ironman refered to him as more than a top tier. Ironman made he looked like he was herald level.

ironman direct words
oh really i know you r very though and i respect everything you stand for. my estimation is it would take at least five or the more powerful men at my disposal to physically take you down. she hulk,wonderman,myself,the vision, and the sentry. but i will bring six more just for safety.
that is a lot of respect when has colossus being given that kind of respect by anyone. Ares is refered to as been both wolverine and thor in one person.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
When Champion came to Earh to challenge the strongest guys on Earth Colossus was selected. And more importantly Colossus was only 18 at the time. I'm over 30 years old now and I am alot stronger now than when I was 18.

Which issue was Colossus selected?

ares was able to fight herc and namor who i would consider both of them above colossus.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Uh, Herc's strenght is higher than Hulk's base strenght. No question about it. How many times has Herc been put above Hulk in the strenght departement? More times than Colossus has been stated to be class 100?

Herc in the comics has been showed to be above Hulk in strength as many times Colossus has been showed to be in the elite tier.

Besides, handbooks dont place Hulk at its base. They just place him in the class he belongs, like the others.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Why the hell are you referring class 100 as the top tier? What's the logic here? Technically class 7, immeasurable strenght, is the top tier./B]

Your making a confusion out of nothing. The poster who refered Colossus as "cl 100" wanted to convey what? That he was in the elite tier, obviously. What else? Just for kicks, drop the handbooks and see this in a comic perspective: Does Colossus have a figthing record as the elite guys we know? No. Does he have a lifting record as the elite guys we know? No.

So hes not elite. Or top tier. Or cl 100. Or have immeasurable strength. Take your pick.

Originally posted by Jyppe
[BSince when has Ares been part of the so called class100toptier?
Maybe you shouldn't make up terms like that just to avoid confusion, as many here consider Colossus a cl 100er. AFAIK class 100 doesn't indicate top tier, it indicates strenght. Nothing else, nothing less.

You say you get confused with the terms of "top tier" and "cl 100" but look how you evaluated Ares here. The term top tier refers to either= the best of a certain area/and or the best overall in varius areas: While Hercules physically speaking is top tier, he isent powerwise. He lacks energy projection, he lacks a great degree of speed, he lacks variety, etc.

Really, what is hard to get here?

Wich area its being discussed? Strength.

So is Colossus in the top cream of strength? No.

Nothing less and nothing more.

Thanos_THOTU, why are you always so rude to guy222?

Originally posted by olympian
[B]Herc in the comics has been showed to be above Hulk in strength as many times Colossus has been showed to be in the elite tier.

yes, yes in your dream

Good boy.

That shows that a haymaker from the Hulk only makes Hercules go "oof" while thinking at the same time what fun he was having.

My statement above stands to the truth. If you were smart enough, you would see how.

Herc is strong. Still Class 100 so he is around Hulk's level. But he ain't no Juggy or Hulk....

you said it yourself colossus is considered one of the strongest being on the planet but the likes of hercules,thor,hulk, and juggy are considered to be some of the strongest being in the universe

Originally posted by olympian
Do we honestly use that term other than talking about the strength elite?

...wich is what we are talking about. Top league of strength. Hes not in it. Neither in figthing record and neither in lifting.

...Schwa?

Dude, Class 100 is everything 100 tons and BEYOND. It is the highest strength classification. Colossus is mid-level class 100.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...Schwa?

Dude, Class 100 is everything 100 tons and BEYOND. It is the highest strength classification. Colossus is mid-level class 100.

You want a feat? How about when he caught the gargantuan space ship from crashing with his bare hands in "Secret Wars"?

catching space ship is for mid tier
hercules and thor almost hit the planet out of it orbit by just armwresting
they close and time/dimensional portal just by punching it
they fought ego the living planet
both of them have humble firelord several different time
they have lifted masses over billions of tons
that is what top tier feats are strength and colossus is just not in that league

Catching a space ship is mid-tier...but it's mid-tier class one hundred.

Ask yourself a question; can Colossus lift one hundred tons?

Can he lift one hundred one tons?

Yes? Then he's class one hundred.

There are power brackets within class 100 that vary from lifting 101 tons to trillions of tons. They're all class 100, regardless.

No one is saying that Colossus has the strength of Hercules, Thor, or the Hulk. The only thing people are saying is that Colossus possesses the strength to press in excess of one hundred tons. The definition of class 100.

And he does. It can be proven, time and time again.

Ares would win this due to the fact that he is a practical match for colossus in strength and durablility, only he also has tons more experience in battle, incredible regeneration, flight, and insane weaponry at his disposal.

Dont get me wrong, Colossus would last a bit due to his durability, but he aint stopping Ares.

Ares 10/10