Originally posted by Superherovandal
Seriously The IG and HOTU are not part of Thanos normal powers. but the OE and OB are. 😉 can u tell me when without the IG or HOTU or any other item not normal to his arsenal he has defeated abstracts?
The hunger/Rot
In-betweener (PIS since IB didn't have his full power but not any worse than Antimonitor getting hurt by DS - neither should have occurred)
What do you mean? Explain, and I'll enlighten you.
Explain just how Spectre was able to be affected by Shazam's assault. I'm willing to bet it's not even logical (blame the writer if thats the case)
Lets face it, Crisis was one of the biggest/best company-wide events ever. Anti Monitor had just absorbed the power of a universe, and was on the recieving end of "utter devistation", don't play down Darkseids feats.
Im definitely not downplaying the Crisis - just saying the DS feat didn't really fit with what else happened. I mean, even Spectre struggled with AM, why is DS even hurting him ?(OE or not)
Pantheons of Gods. Even Odin and Asgard were scared of Darkseid. We're not talking about Godlike beings being coined as Gods, we're talking literal gods. Planets were destroyed in his battles against them. He then would add their power to his own.
DC pantheons never have had the feats guys like Odin have. They're not an accurate comparison. A few planets being destroyed doesn't compare to the epic feats that Odin and Surtur have in their battles. Just going by the on-panel showings of Odin.
Oh really? Which one? His only losses are to Orion and Superman, and both instances are because he shot himself with the Omega Beams. His first acknowledged loss in DC happened in October of 2000 issue of Orion.
Hmmm...tell me this, if he's so powerful - why does he even have to rely on a plot-device (OB) to take care of herald-level beings. I know Supes has the jobber aura but if DS is as great as people pump him up to be - why is he reliant on a plot device to win most of his fights. That's all OB really is too. I'm not saying DS sucks, actually he's one of my favorites. But for once, please, depict him properly fighting like a man.
Originally posted by boriquaking55
Explain just how Spectre was able to be affected by Shazam's assault. I'm willing to bet it's not even logical (blame the writer if thats the case)Im definitely not downplaying the Crisis - just saying the DS feat didn't really fit with what else happened. I mean, even Spectre struggled with AM, why is DS even hurting him ?(OE or not)
DC pantheons never have had the feats guys like Odin have. They're not an accurate comparison. A few planets being destroyed doesn't compare to the epic feats that Odin and Surtur have in their battles. Just going by the on-panel showings of Odin.
Hmmm...tell me this, if he's so powerful - why does he even have to rely on a plot-device (OB) to take care of herald-level beings. I know Supes has the jobber aura but if DS is as great as people pump him up to be - why is he reliant on a plot device to win most of his fights. That's all OB really is too. I'm not saying DS sucks, actually he's one of my favorites. But for once, please, depict him properly fighting like a man.
Seriously the OBs are his power not some plot device like the IG or HOTI.they are tied to his power. Thats like saying that why does SS need the Power Cosmic to defeat hulk. IT IS HIS POWER. HE USES IT JUST AS GALACTUS USES THE POWER COSMIC. GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD. not to be mean i'm just doing that so u'll see it. and ANti monitor was severely weakened by Spectre when DS defeated him. So he wasn't at full power. okay?
Originally posted by Superherovandal
Seriously the OBs are his power not some plot device like the IG or HOTI.they are tied to his power. Thats like saying that why does SS need the Power Cosmic to defeat hulk. IT IS HIS POWER. HE USES IT JUST AS GALACTUS USES THE POWER COSMIC. GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD. not to be mean i'm just doing that so u'll see it. and ANti monitor was severely weakened by Spectre when DS defeated him. So he wasn't at full power. okay?
I see that - the Power Cosmic is just as bad afterall. What DC writers have to do is start making Darkseid less dependant on his OB all the time - lets see him whoop some JLA ass without the Omega effect. However, I expect more jobbage in the mean time.
Originally posted by boriquaking55
I see that - the Power Cosmic is just as bad afterall. What DC writers have to do is start making Darkseid less dependant on his OB all the time - lets see him whoop some JLA ass without the Omega effect. However, I expect more jobbage in the mean time.