Wooooooo YEAH SPURS #1 that was a damn gtood game.l... just got back from downtown that shits awesome. GO S_PURS detroit put up a good game tho. I still like ben wallace he is kewl....I"m glad that the spurs won tho. Had a good time downtown. Got me a good buzz going.....woot. To any detroit fan, that was an awesome game I acually thought we were gonna lose but we pulled it off.....dope. Good game guys....peace.
^^^I can vouch for that, seeing as he was standing on the windowsill of my car screaming "Spurs # 1!!!" and drinking vodka from the glovebox. 😄
Awesome game, awesome series, actually. Detroit has one hell of a team, I'm glad that we got the chance to play against them. I think it really says a lot about the Spurs that they were able to win against a team like Detroit, especially when Detroit came so close to sending our asses home a few times, not to mention the fact that they were one of the few teams to beat us on our home court.
wuTA, you should be proud of your team. Hell, I am and I wasn't even going for them. They played one hell of a series.
(I just noticed how many times I say "hell"😉
Anyway...goodnight all!
Congratulations Spurs, thoroughly deserved win and title. In the end it came down to execution under pressure and i thought the Pistons might sneak it at the start of the 4th. Their guards hadnt shown up yet and Sheed may have been limited by fouls but he still didnt look like he wanted the game like Duncan did. It was good to see Timmy dispel those demons from game 6, he is a class act and the league needs more players like him.
The one thing that bugged me about this game was the officiating, talk about calling the game tight. You only had to look at the guy you were guarding at the refs were blowing up. I hate to see when the refs dominate the game like that, its game 7 let them play. We all want to see the best players out there not sitting on the bench with foul trouble. Granted they called it both ways but i wish they would have let alot of it go, its not like their was any bad blood through the series.
I hope Larry Brown keeps on coaching, he is still the best coach in the league IMO. Good to see the Admiral in the crowd cheering his old team on, you can tell that Timmy learned alot from him with the way he carries himself.
Hope you Spurs fans out there dont have too vicious a hangover, well done you should be proud of the team you have. wuTa, what can i say man, your boys proved so many people wrong this year. Getting past Miami, coming back against the Spurs and almost repeating. You should be proud of your team to, they symbolize how to play hoops the right way.
Next up, the draft .............................
well done spurs, TD certainly showed up in that one. although i was hoping for a pistons win, i am glad to have just had a finals lasting 7 games, its the first time for while i've been into basketball and throughly enjoyed it. good on rob horry, him and mario elie combined for the first alley oop i ever sawe on tv, playing against dallas (in the jimmy jackson jason kidd days) in 96'. always been a fan of the guy, and he deserves every ring he gets.
hopefully my raptors can make a run at the playoffs next year, though the east is pretty close for the last few playoff spots so it'll be hard. i'm looking for cleveland to make some waves next year, just losing out this year i for the 8th spot must have been heart breaking.
All I'm saying is that Manu had a better Finals than Duncan - took over games 1 & 2, had a vital assist to Horry for the game 5 winner then came up big in the final quarter of game 7 so Manu could have been Finals MVP. However, Duncan was more important overall in the series and the playoffs so thats probably why he was named Finals MVP.
Wuta, at least your team makes it somewhere, The closest i saw the Sixers was when they were swept by the Lakers, and the Phillies last time was 93, and i wasnt into baseball at that time, i was about 3 or 4 years old, and then the Flyers, yep never seen them win it all, and the Eagles have never won it all. You had Detroit last year, and the Red Wings a couple of times, at least youve seen a championship, and the Pistons will be great next year.
and Dark Thor, ill tell you after all the trades and FA signings. But we all know it will be the Sixers anyway. 😄
K Von Doom: "All I'm saying is that Manu had a better Finals than Duncan - took over games 1 & 2, had a vital assist to Horry for the game 5 winner then came up big in the final quarter of game 7 so Manu could have been Finals MVP. However, Duncan was more important overall in the series and the playoffs so thats probably why he was named Finals MVP."
Carrying over conversation from closed thread (which came before the above statement):
Me: "Manu plays over his head for two games and all of a sudden people think he deserves hardware more than Duncan. Reminds me of the regular season where Nash got MVP over Shaq because Shaq is expected to be good while Nash isn't."
Ok, now I'm all caught up (thats why I hate 2 threads about the same damn thing)
Anyway, I'm sticking with my Manu view. Manu was very very important to this Spurs team. But everything that the Spurs do starts with Duncan. Manu sticks out because he goes in spurts. Duncan is constant so its hard to see his worth. But you pile in his rebounds, scoring, AND defense (which is overlooked when determining MVP *see Nash*), and you will see that Duncan deserved this. Manu had 2 games where he played over his head and a key 4th quarter in game 7. But you have to look at things as a whole. You could see it as Horry saved the Spurs' butts, but as I said, key minutes don't give you MVP, constant effectiveness does. The combination of Manu playing better than usual, and Duncan playing worse than usual made people want Manu to get MVP, but Duncan still was better than Manu.
This is similar to the Shaq vs Nash arguement. Nash played above people's expectations and Shaq didn't play like the Shaq we all knew, but Shaq was still the MVP in my mind.
darth royke: "myth, are you saying shaq deserved the mvp over nash? even when wade was the better player for miami? nash turned the suns into contenders, his passing took them to another level. "
Honestly, I think Amare was the better player for Phoenix. I would have been much more accepting to him receiving MVP than Nash. Everybody thinks that Amare needs Nash, but I think Nash needs Amare more than the opposite. After nearly 10 years in the league Nash explodes onto the scene? Credit Amare. Nobody in the league plays like Amare. Find an athletic big man that launches through the lane such as Amare. Also, Amare causes some fear on the defensive end. Nash? Nobody fears Nash's defense. That does not sound like an MVP to me. MVPs should be players to fear, not players that you want guarding you when you are on offense. Now, you want to hear about fear? Shaq. Shaq simply stepping on the floor changes the game plan of other teams. Nobody wants to drive the lane and know that Shaq is waiting for them. Nobody wants to guard Shaq either. Now, one thing I've said all along, is that Nash was the final "piece" to making the Suns a good team (much like Wallace being the final piece to last years Pistons). If he honestly was the "Most Valuable", then Dallas would have missed him a lot more. Heck, Dallas replaced him with Terry and did better. This helps show that the Suns just needed a PG to get the ball around and any pure PG would have done the job (Billips for example). Now look at Shaq. He leaves the Lakers and they completely fall apart. The Heat suddenly jumps up to the top seed in the East despite losing 3 starters for Shaq. Now as you pointed out Darth, Wade has really developed into a hell of a player. And if you look at the playoffs only, Wade WAS the better player (don't forget Shaq was not healthy for a single game of the playoffs). But for the regular season, Shaq was the leader of the team and he was still the guy who drew the double teams (when both were in).
nash explodes on the scene? didnt you ever watch him in dallas? i remember how much promise he showed when he was a rook in pheonix, even jordan himself said that nash was going to become a good player. about nash needing amare more than amare needs nash? they need each other. if you take one away they wont be as effective. but you have to remember the slump pheonix went into when nash was out with an injury, the team struggled, especially on such a high offensive team where the point guard is the most important factor.
and against shaq, whose team had the better record? wade was the better player for miami, he carried the team when shaq was out, and played above and beyond the call of duty. shaq was a quality player for miami dont get me wrong, and he changed the whole outlook for miami, but wade is the future for miami.
nash deservedly got the mvp