Originally posted by shin_remy
i don't see Jin winning from Ryu, I even see Devil Jin not winning from Ryu cause evil Ryu will kick DJ's ass!! and he is lower then Sagat or RyuSagat is maybe stronger then Ryu. He was always stronger then Ryu!! But maybe that Ryu wins now cause he has a strong trainer ( Oro )
Lets not turn this into another Ryu/Jin thread. Back then i was convinced that Jin can beat Ryu but some people say that current Ryu is as strong as Akuma was when he sank ans island. If Ryu is capable of that i think he'd win but i won't believe he is that strong until I see some strength feat to prove that. But even if so Devil Jin has ways to beat current Ryu or Sagat. He can simply fly circles and blast Sagat from the distance.
Originally posted by Sam Zryu and sagat have their advantages,flights a SMALL advantage but ,d.jins form doesnt last that long and the beams take too long to fire unlike the tiger shot and hadouken.if jin is going to win he must take flight and attempt 2 wrap things up as A.S.A.P i doubt jin is strong enough 2 beat either of them b 4 his power runs out.once jin lays foot on ground its over admedietly 4 him,unless sagat or ryu want 2 play aruond 4 a bit.
Lets not turn this into another Ryu/Jin thread. Back then i was convinced that Jin can beat Ryu but some people say that current Ryu is as strong as Akuma was when he sank ans island. If Ryu is capable of that i think he'd win but i won't believe he is that strong until I see some strength feat to prove that. But even if so Devil Jin has ways to beat current Ryu or Sagat. He can simply fly circles and blast Sagat from the distance.
Originally posted by Remulous
ryu and sagat have their advantages,flights a SMALL advantage but ,d.jins form doesnt last that long and the beams take too long to fire unlike the tiger shot and hadouken.if jin is going to win he must take flight and attempt 2 wrap things up as A.S.A.P i doubt jin is strong enough 2 beat either of them b 4 his power runs out.once jin lays foot on ground its over admedietly 4 him,unless sagat or ryu want 2 play aruond 4 a bit.
We don't know how long devil form lasts, may be as long as Jin wants, but it doesn't matter since it is devil jin in the thread so time doesn't matter. But Jin is more than enough strong, fast and experienced fighter to give some serious h2h fight to Sagat or Ryu, and as devil his chances are simply much higher.
Originally posted by Sam Zjins only advantage is flight,other than that,ryu or sagat has him beat in nearly every way.im not sayin its impossible 4 d.jin its just very slim
We don't know how long devil form lasts, may be as long as Jin wants, but it doesn't matter since it is devil jin in the thread so time doesn't matter. But Jin is more than enough strong, fast and experienced fighter to give some serious h2h fight to Sagat or Ryu, and as devil his chances are simply much higher.
Originally posted by Remulous
jins only advantage is flight,other than that,ryu or sagat has him beat in nearly every way.im not sayin its impossible 4 d.jin its just very slim
It's slim for ordinary Jin, Devil Jin has other advantages excpet flight, including tk and shot from his third eye is very fast and powerfull. Besides that D.Jin surely can give Sagat a fight even hand to hand.
Originally posted by Sam Zd.jin is strong and fast,but he has yet to pull off any thing comparing to sagat or ryu,actually those 2 r FAR stronger and faster than d.jin,d.jin will win if they underestimate him,i doubt that thoe,im sure sagat learned his lesson.
It's slim for ordinary Jin, Devil Jin has other advantages excpet flight, including tk and shot from his third eye is very fast and powerfull. Besides that D.Jin surely can give Sagat a fight even hand to hand.
Originally posted by Remulous
d.jin is strong and fast,but he has yet to pull off any thing comparing to sagat or ryu,actually those 2 r FAR stronger and faster than d.jin,d.jin will win if they underestimate him,i doubt that thoe,im sure sagat learned his lesson.
I'm sure he did, but Ryu is a different story, i don't know what makes you think that they are faster or stronger, attacks of Devil Jin are more than just comparable to Sagat's and for now on Jin was not even fully in controle over Devil. I don't know any strength feat that'd put Ryu much higher than even ordinary Jin, and Devil Jin is way more stronger than ordinary Jin plus all his devil powers...
Originally posted by Sam Zcuase jin hasnt done any thing that wood make me say, wow hes super fast or strong.ryu has dodged bullets,blown up builldings,shot out kamehameha sized blast and has lifted boulders several times larger than himself, with other boulders stacked on top.sagat really doesnt need to do any feats cause sagat has always been stonger than ryu.
I'm sure he did, but Ryu is a different story, i don't know what makes you think that they are faster or stronger.
Originally posted by Remulous
cuase jin hasnt done any thing that wood make me say, wow hes super fast or strong.ryu has dodged bullets,blown up builldings,shot out kamehameha sized blast and has lifted boulders several times larger than himself, with other boulders stacked on top.sagat really doesnt need to do any feats cause sagat has always been stonger than ryu.
Lifting boulder is really not much of a feat, and as for destroying buldings with hadoukens, that's what Jin did in his devil form with laser. So nothing here puts Ryu higher in strength than Jin. Talk about sinking island with a punch, now that's a strength feat. And breaking through walls, rocks or even dodging bullets is really not a very big deal.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Lifting boulder is really not much of a feat, and as for destroying buldings with hadoukens, that's what Jin did in his devil form with laser. So nothing here puts Ryu higher in strength than Jin. Talk about sinking island with a punch, now that's a strength feat. And breaking through walls, rocks or even dodging bullets is really not a very big deal.
yeah but i haven't seen Jin do that, i haven't seen him dodging bullets
and Ryu shoots a building in a few seconds, a simple hadouken, Shinkuu Hadouken is impressive. that blast will blow Jin apart.
the beam from Jin is to slow to hit Ryu, he dodge bullets from close distance,
and not the crap like, doging bullets is not a big deal JIN HASN"T DONE IT!!!! So i want to see him dodge a Hadouken or a Shinkuu Hadouken or any other projectile.
Sagat will KICK Jin ass, Devil or normal, NO BIG DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Krone
Why the hell are you comparing D.Jin to Ryu!! its D.Jin vs SAGAT!!!! and Shin Remy you will always say the winner is from the street fighter game.
Cause it is changing to D.Jin to Ryu and i post several times that other people win, and not only SF, you need to read better!!! Or else buy some glasses!!
And it is no big deal if it is normal Jin or Devil Jin. Sagat will still kick his ass, Sagat was always stronger then Ryu,
Originally posted by shin_remy
yeah but i haven't seen Jin do that, i haven't seen him dodging bulletsand Ryu shoots a building in a few seconds, a simple hadouken, Shinkuu Hadouken is impressive. that blast will blow Jin apart.
the beam from Jin is to slow to hit Ryu, he dodge bullets from close distance,
and not the crap like, doging bullets is not a big deal JIN HASN"T DONE IT!!!! So i want to see him dodge a Hadouken or a Shinkuu Hadouken or any other projectile.
Sagat will KICK Jin ass, Devil or normal, NO BIG DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!
First of all not simple hudouken but just hadouken, i can also say that simple laser blast does the same, so destroying buildings is not a big deal, show me Ryu doing it with his punch, then we'll talk. So there is NO strength feat that puts Ryu much higher than Jin.
As for dodging bullets pahlease. Kazuya took on dozens of armed and trained soldiers with his bare hands and it is way more impressive than just dodging fire from two pistols.
Jin's attack is not fast enough? How's that? It's actually takes less time than hadouken, and i'm not yet talking about tk.
Sagat would probably beaqt ordinary Jin since he has advantage like projectiles, but he gets beaten by devil. Take strength, speed, flight, tk, laser. End of story.
EDIT: You still think of tekken characters as of "ordinary" fighters?