Count Dooku Runs the Gauntlet

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
Still, he might not get a chance to use the Force, his Lightning was shown as only taking 1 person, he might be able to lift some up, but they could likely dodge them, and proceed to hit Dooku

Well it would depend on how far away they start. But remember that Dooku only duels with one hand, leaving the other open to use the force. It wont be hard for him to fire of blasts of force lightning while duelling. Also they aren't force sensitive. They wont be able to a) know when Dooku is about to use the force and b) block any force attacks the Count uses.

he was only shown using it on one person, because he always only fights one person at a time when he uses it.

On Geonosis, Anakin ran in, leaving Obi-Wan behind, and got stomped.

When fighting ventress for the first time, he used lightning on her, but again it was just him vs. her.

Originally posted by Coleman Trebor
he was only shown using it on one person, because he always only fights one person at a time when he uses it.

On Geonosis, Anakin ran in, leaving Obi-Wan behind, and got stomped.

When fighting ventress for the first time, he used lightning on her, but again it was just him vs. her.

True. But thats not to say he cant use it when fighting multiple opponents. Also there is a vast difference between fighting jedi/sith and droids.

These are advanced Droids, they had the ability to fight Jedi, and they don't have the Force, I doubt if he even does use the Force, he will win, I think they'll overpower em

Originally posted by Rampant ox
True. But thats not to say he cant use it when fighting multiple opponents. Also there is a vast difference between fighting jedi/sith and droids.

i was defending you...

I was explainign why Dooku's never been shown using lightnign on mulitple people,

Originally posted by Coleman Trebor
i was defending you...

I was explainign why Dooku's never been shown using lightnign on mulitple people,

Lol, so you were. Sorry its late and im on the brink of getting drunk on martini's...

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
These are advanced Droids, they had the ability to fight Jedi, and they don't have the Force, I doubt if he even does use the Force, he will win, I think they'll overpower em

Yes, but they are droids none the less. Not one ounce of force sensitivity in them. The only way they will win is through pure numbers. If Dooku can keep a fair distance from them he will destroy them with lightning. If they get into a duel Dooku should be able to hold them back long enough to shoot them with lightning anyway. And sorry for the double post.

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Yes, but they are droids none the less. Not one ounce of force sensitivity in them. The only way they will win is through pure numbers. If Dooku can keep a fair distance from them he will destroy them with lightning. If they get into a duel Dooku should be able to hold them back long enough to shoot them with lightning anyway. And sorry for the double post.

Droids who were capable of Fighting Jedi, and I believe sometimes winning against them. How will he keep distance? These Droids are like Mini-Versions of Grievous, all acrobatic-like, at the most he could probably fight 2-3 of them, he can probably wipe out half at the beginning if his Lightning effects em all, but the battle-area isn't specified, can't really say

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
Droids who were capable of Fighting Jedi, and I believe sometimes winning against them. How will he keep distance? These Droids are like Mini-Versions of Grievous, all acrobatic-like, at the most he could probably fight 2-3 of them, he can probably wipe out half at the beginning if his Lightning effects em all, but the battle-area isn't specified, can't really say

Most of the droi weren't even that fast, despite BF II, they couldn't sprint, just jog. Dooku, depending on his location, should easily be able to get at least 10 meters away and just destroy them with the force.

In the Clone Wars Cartoon they did show Sprinting, but I'm assuming these Fights are at distance of what Anakin/Obi-Wan were at before they began their Epic duel, a fair ammount. Dooku won't be able to blow enough away, they just need half to win this in Staff vs. Saber duel, Makashi is made for 1vs1, his mastery gave him 2-3

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
[B]Droids who were capable of Fighting Jedi, and I believe sometimes winning against them.

Yes, but Dooku is leagues above your average jedi.

How will he keep distance?

Force jump comes to mind. Dooku is fairly acrobatic for his age, we saw him forward flipping over the balcony in ROTS. Or he could just force push the droids away from him.

These Droids are like Mini-Versions of Grievous, all acrobatic-like,

Dooku can wtf pwn Greivous. Your whole argument collapses right there.

at the most he could probably fight 2-3 of them, he can probably wipe out half at the beginning if his Lightning effects em all, but the battle-area isn't specified, can't really say

Force lightning isnt something where you fire it for a second and have to wait a while to use it again. Dooku could just fire off a blast of force lightning at the beginning and not stop it until all the droids are dead.

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Yes, but Dooku is leagues above your average jedi.

Force jump comes to mind. Dooku is fairly acrobatic for his age, we saw him forward flipping over the balcony in ROTS. Or he could just force push the droids away from him.

Dooku can wtf pwn Greivous. Your whole argument collapses right there.

Force lightning isnt something where you fire it for a second and have to wait a while to use it again. Dooku could just fire off a blast of force lightning at the beginning and not stop it until all the droids are dead.

Dooku may be better than the Average Jedi, but 8 Average Jedi could kill Dooku.

We don't know if Force Jump works here, either way, the droids could follow him and surround him rather quickly. Force Push might work, it still depends on the area, and who knows if he could push ALL 8 away before a Couple get to him, and give the others time to get to him

Dooku can't WTF PWN Grievous, shortly before his Force Crush, he was able to Stalemate Mace in saber combat, Mace > Dooku, Dooku would have to get in a Lucky Force attack to beat Grievous. My arguement doesn't collapse either way, there are 8 of them, Mini-Grievous'

The area of effect for Dooku's Lightning is unknown, covering all 8 would be tough for Sidious', they move really quickly. And after a while you drain your Force ability, without the Force in Saber Combat, Dooku is just another old man.

Dooku could win this, but they would definately injure him, chances of 1 of those 8 Staves hitting him is pretty high

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
[B]Dooku may be better than the Average Jedi, but 8 Average Jedi could kill Dooku.

Possibly. But I think you are either underestimating the power of Dooku or overestimating the power of the droids.

We don't know if Force Jump works here,

Why wouldnt it?

either way, the droids could follow him and surround him rather quickly. Force Push might work, it still depends on the area, and who knows if he could push ALL 8 away before a Couple get to him, and give the others time to get to him

Here is an example of what would happen. Dooku fores off a blast of force lightning, killing two droids. He force jumps back 10-15 metres before killing another two droids with lightning. He then seperstaes the remailing four droids into pairs with the force and begins to slaughter them with his saber. My point is that Dooku has a massive advantage because of the force.

Dooku can't WTF PWN Grievous, shortly before his Force Crush, he was able to Stalemate Mace in saber combat, Mace > Dooku, Dooku would have to get in a Lucky Force attack to beat Grievous.

Wrong. In the CW cartoon we see Dooku pwning GG with relative ease. I cant find the link at the moment to show you but trust me, Dooku is better than Greivous.

My arguement doesn't collapse either way, there are 8 of them, Mini-Grievous'

Fair enough. I doubt Dooku could take out 8 GG at once. However Magndroids are nowhere near as strong as GG himself.

The area of effect for Dooku's Lightning is unknown, covering all 8 would be tough for Sidious', they move really quickly. And after a while you drain your Force ability, without the Force in Saber Combat, Dooku is just another old man.

True. But the droids cant block the lightning. They aren't force sensitive. It would take longer for the Count to get tired than it would for him to beat them all with the force.

Dooku could win this, but they would definately injure him, chances of 1 of those 8 Staves hitting him is pretty high

Possibly. Depends on whether they get into a saber duel or a force battle. Dooku is a smart guy, I am quite sure he would not be stupid enough to go head to head with 8 magnadroids with his saber alone.

Dooku could take out maybe three with lightning, and then out-duel the rest. Magnaguards are good, but, they couldn't beat Dooku. Makashi is a lot of stabbing, and not many powerful slashes, so, magnaguards durability would help them, and leave Dooku tired, but, he would win.

By the Way, Shaak Ti, a makashi user inferior to Dooku managed to hold her own and defeat more than 8 magnaguards in the Clone Wars series.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Dooku could take out maybe three with lightning, and then out-duel the rest. Magnaguards are good, but, they couldn't beat Dooku. Makashi is a lot of stabbing, and not many powerful slashes, so, magnaguards durability would help them, and leave Dooku tired, but, he would win.

By the Way, Shaak Ti, a makashi user inferior to Dooku managed to hold her own and defeat more than 8 magnaguards in the Clone Wars series.

It would take 4 Droids to kill him, or at least wound him for the next fight, Makashi is made for 1 oppenent, he according to Wiki mastered it so well, he could take 3 Jedi at once.

Shaak Ti hasn't been factualy noted as being a Makashi user, main reason being she survived Geonosis, where all Makashi users died, that takes some credit from it. Battles from the Clone Wars, and Force Powers were exaggerated, it should be noted early on she had trouble with 1-2

Sure she was more powerful than she should be, but, so were the magnaguards. Just imagine a more slow paced battle. Dooku is a better duelist than Shaak, and could do better, regardless of the type lightsaber form.

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
It would take 4 Droids to kill him, or at least wound him for the next fight, Makashi is made for 1 oppenent, he according to Wiki mastered it so well, he could take 3 Jedi at once.

Shaak Ti hasn't been factualy noted as being a Makashi user, main reason being she survived Geonosis, where all Makashi users died, that takes some credit from it. Battles from the Clone Wars, and Force Powers were exaggerated, it should be noted early on she had trouble with 1-2

Well, for one thing, 3 Jedi at once> Droids

Another, all Niman users dies at Geonosis, not Makashi.

And if they are exaggerated for Shaak Ti, they are exaggerated for Droids, but either way, it's canon.

1. You know how hard this would be? TPM Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan had a tie with 2 of them, a tie and although Dooku's sueprior to these 2 your adding in a third droideka. I could see him going down here, he probably makes it but has a LOT of trouble (unless the shields don't block lightning, then it's only a little hard).
2. Again, 2 Magnagaurds put up an allright fight against ROTS Kenobi so these 8 have a good chance at taking the Count out. But, again, if they can't block lightning then the Count prevails.
3. Delta Squad gives Dooku trouble, too, but he makes it.
4. Dooku goes down, his only chance is using lightning but even so if he shoots lightning by the time he kills all 5 of them so much fire will have come his way that it'll be impossible for him to block it all. He dies.
5. I have no idea why these 2 are way up here, These 2 are about on par with 1 and 2.

And what the hell does #7 mean?

So he probably goes down at #4.

Originally posted by Spartan ll
Muunilist 10 was the squad made of ARCs and Clone Troopers that infiltrated and captured Muunilist itself, in the Clone Wars TV series.

Originally posted by John!attheDisco
Well, for one thing, 3 Jedi at once> Droids

Another, all Niman users dies at Geonosis, not Makashi.

And if they are exaggerated for Shaak Ti, they are exaggerated for Droids, but either way, it's canon.

1 MagnaGuard is about equal with the Average Jedi

Niman and Makashi users both died at Geonosis

The Droid's numbers were exaggerated, there is no way ANY Jedi, not even Dooku, could fight 100 of these things. The Droids were under-powered in the Cartoon actually, in ROTS they fight much better, yet the events were only Hours, if not minutes after the Cartoon. Anakin, who we all know is superior to Dooku, had trouble fighting 1.

He has to get a lucky Force attack in, only way to win this.

I just realised the first fight are Destroyer Droids, Dooku could very well lose to them with his terrible Blaster Deflect, and their Shields against his attacks, both Saber and Force