Northstar vs Colussos...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The mach speed comment was made when Arura impales X-23 with her fist. The point the writer was trying to make with the light speed comment was that Northstar was faster then the shutter speed of Cyclops visor and not the speed of his optic blast it's self(which is light speed).

No that's a completly seperate incident, and we know for a fact she can go faster than mach 2. I disagree I don't even think his optic blasts even travel at the speed of light as I have seen countless people dodge it effortlessly. It's a concussive blast, not light.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Agreed. I believe this is how it was meant to be interpreted.

The gap is Northstar and the visor

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah thats how I looked at it but at the end of the day I guess people will read it the way they want it to be.

Actually even before I read it people told me he traveled at the speed of light as well, so don't pull the card it's just what I think crap.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually even before I read it people told me he traveled at the speed of light as well, so don't pull the card it's just what I think crap.

What? The comment was very vague and there is no way to prove either way what it was actually meant to say so at the end of the day people will come away with it meaning what they want it to mean. It wasn't meant to be an insult, its just how it is.

Here's how I look at it, if Northstar was reaching light speed then he could have simply out raced Cyc's optic blast. If that was the case then why make the comment specific to the speed of Cyclops' visors shutter? Why not the speed of his optic blast? Because the writer is telling use that Cyclops' blast moves at the speed of light but the speed of his optic blast is irrelevant because Northstart is faster then his visors shutter speed. I also think that if the writer wanted us to think they were hitting light speed he wouldn't have included the comment about piercing steal at mach 2... 'cause I think everyone knows that it doest if you are weaponless if you are hitting lights speeds.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Here's how I look at it, if Northstar was reaching light speed then he could have simply out raced Cyc's optic blast. If that was the case then why make the comment specific to the speed of Cyclops' visors shutter? Why not the speed of his optic blast? Because the writer is telling use that Cyclops' blast moves at the speed of light but the speed of his optic blast is irrelevant because Northstart is faster then his visors shutter speed. I also think that if the writer wanted us to think they were hitting light speed he wouldn't have included the comment about piercing steal at mach 2... 'cause I think everyone knows that it doest if you are weaponless if you are hitting lights speeds.

Why would he outrace it when he could use the situation to his advantage? The comment was to discuss the speed of Northstar and the gap between the servors in his visor that's why he stepped in. As was the gap when they took out White Queen 1/100 of a second just prior. Where has it even been stated his blasts are the speed of light? because I'm definetly disagreeing with that, as it's not light but a concussive blast and have seen countless people dodge his blasts. Read what Aurora was doing before, she was luring her in and we have seen Aurora go far far far faster than mach 2 it's a completly different situation.

northstar ftw

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It was the sentence right before the visor speed comment; it was referring to the speed of his optic blast. He was going faster then mach 2 (they said as much) but you misinterpreted the light speed remark.

That actually makes more sense, since they implied that if Emma didnt have to switch from diamond form to normal that she could have shut them both off.

Originally posted by thedude1948
That actually makes more sense, since they implied that if Emma didnt have to switch from diamond form to normal that she could have shut them both off.

She already was out of diamond form when they made that comment. She was in human form when Cannonball first told her who was attacking.

speed of thought is about 30 m/s. (meters), they are far far faster than that.

"And that might even have worked. But the former White Queen has to abandon her diamond form to use her Psi-powers.

Then this makes no sense. Tell me how you interpret this.

It is also hard to interpret the art. they could have already started speedblitzing her, and she could have just finished turning back to her normal form.

Originally posted by thedude1948
"And that might even have worked. But the former White Queen [b]has to abandon her diamond form to use her Psi-powers.

Then this makes no sense. Tell me how you interpret this.

It is also hard to interpret art. they could have already started speedblitzing her, and she could have just turned to her normal form. [/B]

She was human when Cannonball crashed through the window as shown. She had plently of time to react.

prior to upgrade Northstar ran 7.5 miles per second, you tell me what's faster. 30 meters per second or 7.5 miles per second when he ran and wasn't pushing himself

colossus will eventually get a hold of him
northstar dies horribly

It doesnt matter Marvel Universe recent bio stated Northstar capable of SofL.. So there you go.. Its out in comic store near you 😄, if anybody wanted to take a look at it..

Originally posted by King_Mungi
She already was out of diamond form when they made that comment. She was in human form when Cannonball first told her who was attacking.

speed of thought is about 30 m/s. (meters), they are far far faster than that.

Not only that but it takes even longer to find their minds and mindrape them

Originally posted by Grimm22
Not only that but it takes even longer to find their minds and mindrape them

Ssssshhh...I will slap you! 😎

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/xmen190005qg7.jpg

The way I interpreted this scan was that Emma changes out of Diamond Form as soon as Cannonball finishes his sentence...then gets blitzed the instant she changes into to human form...the action of changing in and out of Diamond takes 1/100 of a second...the action of using her psi-powers is basically fast enough to take out the twins...that's what the writer basically implied IMO, that she had a chance of taking them out had she not needed to change into her human form inorder to use her psi powers.

But I'd also like to add that the writer was wrong in saying that...he either neglected the twins super reflexes or he thinks that Uber telepaths react at the SoFL.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
for him, but what about everyone else? Unless his shield prevents any friction as Northstar could always go 99% the speed of light but couldn't as it would cause him and the environment great damage.

the North Force 😉

Originally posted by Black Adam
the North Force 😉

Does Aurora have the North Force? 🙁

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Does Aurora have the North Force? 🙁

NO

Originally posted by Black Adam
NO

😮 she just uses a tarp then?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I still don't get how he can go lightspeed now, unless he has a personal shield which makes sense as Rogue's punches didn't seem to phase him.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Rogue does not have superstrength these days.

Oh that's right it's Sunfire powers she has, regardless she stole his speed and yet Northstar still beat her