sakura sfa3 vs makoto sf3

Started by Emperor Ashtar9 pages

Originally posted by shin_remy
yes he did, i have read it several times

CHarlie was USA champion there. Ken took his title. by sf3 Ken won 3 times on a row. charlie had won 2 times on a row

sf1, sf2, sf3.

EDIT : why can't i tell some story's . i'm always interested in sf story's. if it happend in canon or not

I know charlie was the previous champion, But, he didn't fight ken for his title. Please show me your source for this, or is it secret?

read the canon. you have the canon don't you? even wikipedia says that Ken won from Charlie.

Ken did not participate in the first Street Fighter tournament; instead, he fought in (and won) the premiere U.S. Martial Arts tournament that had been previously won by Charlie, as well as meeting a very attractive girl named Eliza, who became his girlfriend

Ken won the tournament 3 times on a row. if you think i am a moran. you are more. the man who thinks that he knows everything 😱

You are a FAKE SF FAN. besides. Capcom doesn't really follow a strict line of the canon. canon has many story's it is also written in the canon, you have the canon don't you?

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EDIT : i'm confused, urgh to be honest, you might be right, but i have read it 😖

Originally posted by shin_remy
read the canon. you have the canon don't you? even wikipedia says that Ken won from Charlie.

Ken did not participate in the first Street Fighter tournament; instead, he fought in (and won) the premiere U.S. Martial Arts tournament that had been previously won by Charlie, as well as meeting a very attractive girl named Eliza, who became his girlfriend

How does that equal fighting charlie,God your post get worst.

Originally posted by shin_remy

Ken won the tournament 3 times on a row. if you think i am a moran. you are more. the man who thinks that he knows everything 😱

You are a FAKE SF FAN. besides. Capcom doesn't really follow a strict line of the canon. canon has many story's it is also written in the canon, you have the canon don't you?

507 pages

😆 I think I know everyhting, you claimed you knew more than me and wikipedia about street fighter. I never claimed I knew everything about street fighter; You on the other seem to belive your the ultimate source.

Your post make me laugh, everytime I read it. It's like watching a child type, man your funny.

Originally posted by shin_remy

EDIT : i'm confused, urgh to be honest, you might be right, but i have read it 😖

I read the canon like, 5 times over.

Ken, met eliza during street fighter 1. while ryu was busy fighting in the first world warrior tournament;Ken was fighting in the united states martial arts tournament. He met eliza during the end of the preliminary rounds.

Charlie is simply the previous champion, the amount of times charlie one the tournament is unknown. It can't be higher than 3 because, Ken set a record of winning it 3 times in a row.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Regular ryu is better by third strike, dark ryu is still stronger than ryu.

Infact, the only reason gouki spared ryu was because he wanted ryu to embrace satsu no hadou and fight dark ryu.Ken and ryu are not equal, ryu beat him in sf3 tournament and third strike.charlie died saving guiles life. And when did karin have a rematch, sakura is still stronger.

no normal ryu is better, there is no proof that hes not and 2 much proof saying he is.ken and ryu were equal in the alpha games,lets focus on alpha not the other SFs.karin defeated sakura in the rematch wich took place in alpha 3,she went on 2 fight ken and lost,but learned that winning wasnt everything.

from the guide


Satsu no Hadou means killing/murderous intent (mistranslated as Evil
Intent by Capcom in Alpha series). So yes, murderous/killing intent and
satsu no hadou are one and the same thing. Anyways, Satsui No Hado is a
philosophy that manifests itself as, or in one's ki. The philosophy is that
to be the victor in battle, one must win at all costs, especially if it
comes down to killing the opponent. I'm sure you've known that by now
because that's Akuma's philosophy. Satsui No Hado is centered around one's
drive for fighting, potential and negative emotions, if you can call being
power hungry and wanting to be the strongest that.

When in SnH, your attitude and mindset is changed to better suit that
philosophy. It could either grant you power or condemn you, which depends
on the person. Akuma has greater control over Satsui No Hado than Ryu
because it represents everything he believes in, thus he still wishes to
better himself as he would without it. Because Ryu does not wish to follow
that same path of life as Akuma, he becomes a more psychotic individual
under Satsui No Hado and can think of nothing else but looking for people
to kill, as well as opponents powerful enough to destroy him. Ryu loses
interest in overcoming new obstacles in this state, which is why it would
only hinder him from finding his true potential.
Satsu no Hadou is sister to Psycho Power because both rely on strong
negative emotions (including an infatuation with being the strongest and
the best). They aren't one and the same thing, but they parallel each
other a lot, which was why Ryu rejecting Bison's psycho power was symbollic
of him rejecting Satsu no Hadou, too.

Satsui no hadou comes out the most in practitioners of the Ansatsuken
fighting style, because the root of that fighting style was meant to kill.
Ryu might not have learned the killing arts of ansatsuken, but when he is
overcome by satsu no hadou, he becomes so horrifically focused no-holds
barred and powerful that his ansatsuken very closely resembles, if not
mimic fully, the true killing non-dumbed-down art of ansatsuken.
At any rate, after SFA3, Ryu has matured and decided not to use Satsu no
Hadou, and thus the chances of Evil Ryu ever appearing again, even in
what-if form, are almost nonexistant (to the point where Evil Ryu returning
would most likely be very Deus Ex...). Akuma still uses it of course, but
he knows how to handle his rage and killing intent while staying focused,
anyways.
The side effects of the Murderous Hadou include increased physical strength
and being able to perform moves/techniques that surpass the user's
intelligence (What that means, I don't know. I guess It might mean that
SnH allows the user to perform moves that they didn't originally know).
Substantial emotional strength is necessary in order to control the SnH.
Originally posted by Remulous
no normal ryu is better, there is no proof that hes not and 2 much proof saying he is.ken and ryu were equal in the alpha games,lets focus on alpha not the other SFs.karin defeated sakura in the rematch wich took place in alpha 3,she went on 2 fight ken and lost,but learned that winning wasnt everything.

Dark Hadou increase you strenght, speed and Chi

Evil Ryu is still stronger then Ryu

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
And when did karin have a rematch, sakura is still stronger.

Sakura is stronger but there is a story, it was canon, don't know if it still is canon. but Karin won the rematch

Sakura vs Karin stands 2-1

Originally posted by shin_remy
Dark Hadou increase you strenght, speed and Chi

Evil Ryu is still stronger then Ryu

no he's not,if he was ryu wooda stuck with it,but found a BETTER way,besides its normal ryu who won most of the matches not the dark 1.the dark hadou does increase all those things but a 2 hefty a price,ryu made the right choice by rejecting it.

Originally posted by Remulous
no he's not,if he was ryu wooda stuck with it,but found a BETTER way,besides its normal ryu who won most of the matches not the dark 1.the dark hadou does increase all those things but a 2 hefty a price,ryu made the right choice by rejecting it.

he made the right choice, indeed but he is not STRONGER!!

ok look

they Regular Ryu and Dark Ryu are about the same lvl. only the difference is that Dark Ryu is faster, stronger and has more Chi.

got it 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Remulous
no he's not,if he was ryu wooda stuck with it,but found a BETTER way,besides its normal ryu who won most of the matches not the dark 1.the dark hadou does increase all those things but a 2 hefty a price,ryu made the right choice by rejecting it.

Yeah, your right, you beat me to it. Dark Ryu was stronger than alpha ryu, But, By third Strike ryu has developed to the point of retaining all his power without satsu no hadou.

Originally posted by shin_remy
he made the right choice, indeed but he is not STRONGER!!

ok look

they Regular Ryu and Dark Ryu are about the same lvl. only the difference is that Dark Ryu is faster, stronger and has more Chi.

got it 😮‍💨

He does not have more Ki anymore, the gap between ryu and dark ryu's Ki his been closed. Dark Ryu, does however contain more physical strength and a more killing potent KI. But, He lacks control when using Satsu no hadou.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

He does not have more Ki anymore, the gap in thier Ki his been closed by ryu in third strike. He does however has more physical strength and a more killing potent KI. But, He lacks control when using dark ryu.

oh yeah my mistake

Originally posted by shin_remy
he made the right choice, indeed but he is not STRONGER!!

ok look

they Regular Ryu and Dark Ryu are about the same lvl. only the difference is that Dark Ryu is faster, stronger and has more Chi.

got it 😮‍💨

dude how?honestly,dark ryu is like 1 of the worst characters in alpha 3.read the eternal challenge it even says it.hes got all of akuma's weaknesses and none of his strengths.

Originally posted by Remulous
dude how?honestly,dark ryu is like 1 of the worst characters in alpha 3.read the eternal challenge it even says it.hes got all of akuma's weaknesses and none of his strengths.

Ryu, in alpha was a scrub. Read alpha 3 source book, it's better than eternal challenge when it comes to verifying alpha tidbits. Ryu, in alpha was not as focused as he is in third strike nor was he as expericed. By third strike, Ryu, has fought over 10,000 opponets. Ryu, in alpha wasn't even traveling the world( except in alpha 3) He even let himself get brainwashed by bison! Dark Ryu, had way higher Ki, Speed, and of couse strength over alpha ryu.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Ryu, in alpha was a scrub. Read alpha 3 source book, it's better than eternal challenge when it comes to verifying alpha tidbits. Ryu, in alpha was not as focused as he is in third strike nor was he as expericed. By third strike, Ryu, has fought over 10,000 opponets. Ryu, in alpha wasn't even traveling the world( except in alpha 3) He even let himself get brainwashed by bison! Dark Ryu, had way higher Ki, Speed, and of couse strength over alpha ryu.
over all i think normal ryu is the more usaeful character.dark ryu has akumas defense wich is horrible.and he has normal ryus speed and strength and some of akumas supers.the alpha 2 ryu is the ony version thats better than normal ryu.

Originally posted by Remulous
over all i think normal ryu is the more usaeful character.dark ryu has akumas defense wich is horrible.and he has normal ryus speed and strength and some of akumas supers.the alpha 2 ryu is the ony version thats better than normal ryu.

Your talking game play-wise, gouki's defence is only weak in the game. 😆

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Your talking game play-wise, gouki's defence is only weak in the game. 😆
oh in that case, your right 😆 ,dark ryu is stronger than ryu...but only in the alpha versions.

Originally posted by Remulous
oh in that case, your right 😆 ,dark ryu is stronger than ryu...but only in the alpha versions.

All the versions, except street fighter 3.

possibly,but that topic is debatble

Originally posted by Remulous
possibly,but that topic is debatble

How is it debatable, when capcom specificly said ryu, has finally reached dark ryu level of power in sf3?