Reed Richards vs. The MU

Originally posted by bigbran
Ok, in all seriousness, Reed Richards is not a very good character.
How can a normal man be beating universes?

that is the main point that I been trying to make all night. But if you read the thread withhim versus the DCU, you see people making all kinds of ways for him to just murder the DCU. But in this thread, people bring up all the beings in marvel who would stop him. He can't destroy anything. It's PIS to have a frail human being be able to destroy the universe. The Un when from the ultimate weapon against galactus to the ultimate weaon against everybody.

Originally posted by bigbran
Reed Richards is not a very good character.
How can a normal man be beating universes?

As you know

he remade the Multi-verse, that's an infinite number of Universes.

He was given Two days Prep, during the Abraxas arc they found the UN in One day.

Originally posted by Mr Master
As you know

he remade the Multi-verse, that's an infinite number of Universes.

He was given Two days Prep, during the Abraxas arc they found the UN in One day.

It's pure PIS for read to be able to destroy any universe. He's a man. He's with in The wrealm of Destiny. His thoughts can be read and he can be frozen inside the loop of time. All it would take is The inbetweener to read his mind and suspend him in a time bubbler forever pulling the trigger in his mind with out ever actually pulling it. Dr. Fate would have banished him into one of those universe we didn't even know existed in DC until they collapsed one to stop the ALE.

Originally posted by Mr Master
As you know

he remade the Multi-verse, that's an infinite number of Universes.

He was given Two days Prep, during the Abraxas arc they found the UN in One day.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He can't destroy anything. It's PIS to have a frail human being be able to destroy the universe.

When you become Editor in Chief, your word may have meaning.

But I rather stick with the On Panel proof for now.

Like it or not, Reed Destroyed and Remade the ENTIRE Multi-verse.

You may ignore it, but I will not stop reminding you.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Un when from the ultimate weapon against galactus to the ultimate weaon against everybody.

See, now your learning.

So far though, it's maximum scope has been a Multiversal Destroyer, Remaker.

Originally posted by Mr Master
When you become Editor in Chief, your word may have meaning.

But I rather stick with the On Panel proof for now.

Like it or not, Reed Destroyed and Remade the ENTIRE Multi-verse.

You may ignore it, but I will not stop reminding you.

See, now your learning.

So far though, it's maximum scope has been a Multiversal Destroyer, Remaker.

He is still A human being. Inside the confines of Destiny. IT's PIS to have him be able to destroy the universe and no one stop him.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He is still A human being. Inside the confines of Destiny. IT's PIS to have him be able to destroy the universe and no one stop him.

he doesnt destroy anything. The ultimate nullifier does. He just has to click the button.

Get it?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's pure PIS for read to be able to destroy any universe. He's a man. He's with in The wrealm of Destiny. His thoughts can be read and he can be frozen inside the loop of time. All it would take is The inbetweener to read his mind and suspend him in a time bubbler forever pulling the trigger in his mind with out ever actually pulling it.

uhh right.

And Abraxas who took the Watcher's memory away couldn't, but nice going on the pure speculation.

Reed is not just a man, he's Mr Fantastic.

He's travelled the Multi-verse countless times.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Dr. Fate would have banished him into one of those universe we didn't even know existed in DC until they collapsed one to stop the ALE.

Only that dimension would not exist, since the UN would erase it. 😂

Originally posted by bigbran
but, they make his brain, be the most powerful weapon, ever.

That's the character, he always figures out a way, or invents the solution.

Reed is Marvel's ultimate plot device.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He is still A human being. Inside the confines of Destiny. IT's PIS to have him be able to destroy the universe and no one stop him.

Originally posted by Inhuman
he doesnt destroy anything. The ultimate nullifier does. He just has to click the button.

Get it?

Originally posted by Mr Master
uhh right.

And Abraxas who took the Watcher's memory away couldn't, but nice going on the pure speculation.

Reed is not just a man, he's Mr Fantastic.

He's travelled the Multi-verse countless times.

Only that dimension would not exist, since the UN would erase it. 😂

All the research I did on the Un says that it takes a being of omnicient mind like Galactus to operate the Un as it is an aspect of himself. And that any wielder less than him would simply be erased along with what ever they were trying to destroy. So how is it that reed destroyed and remade the multiverse. I didnt' get to read that story. and the only references I can find on it are from alternate time lines and some ultimate story. did this happen in the 616 cannon universe?

Yeah, he's the Batman from Marvel. Except that he's a much better character.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Ur kinda missing what I"m saying. He's a human being. we all have to think before we act. even if it's nearly split second, it's not. It takes time for our thought to manifest into action. When you have a universe of beings who are aware of everything all the time with extreme power, it's not possible for alowely human being to hide thier thoughts from them and just destroy the universe. Some cosmic should ahve read his mind and stopped him. To beings like infinity and the inbetweener or wave rider or spectre, time means nothing. they can slow time down so that the time it takes for the thought to become action turns into a trillion years. it's just not realistic.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Yeah, he's the Batman from Marvel. Except that he's a much better character.

I wouldn't say he's a better character. He's kind of one dimensional. ANd he doesn't have the back ground that batman does. Now the thing and sue storm are much more interesting to me.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Yeah, he's the Batman from Marvel. Except that he's a much better character.

Originally posted by Juntai
There is no better character than Batman.
😠

Come on, what's wrong with Reed? He's fairly well developed over the years.

Alright, so maybe he's not technically better from a purely artistic standpoint. But at least he doesn't have stupid pointy ears and a lame ass butler. That has to count for something....

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
All the research I did on the Un says that it takes a being of omnicient mind like Galactus to operate the Un as it is an aspect of himself.

It is an Aspect of Galactus.

But the other part isn't true, which is why I Never use bios, handbooks or websites to confirm a FEAT.

And Reed's mind is far beyond normal human.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And that any wielder less than him would simply be erased along with what ever they were trying to destroy.

If you use the UN, you could end up erased.

But your mind doesn't have to be Galactus level to use it, On Panel Reed used it and so did Morg, none were erased.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So how is it that reed destroyed and remade the multiverse. I didnt' get to read that story. and the only references I can find on it are from alternate time lines and some ultimate story. did this happen in the 616 cannon universe?

Abraxas killed the Galactus of many Universes

This added to the Multiversal collapse that was taking place.

Here Reed says "our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...how can this be...unless the entire Multiverse is misaligned.

Here Nova says "creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- Reality folding onto itself" again this Multiversal misalignment is literally ripping the Multiverse apart.

Finally what does this lead to?

Reed, "In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was."

What was MISALIGNED?

The MULTI-VERSE!

How did Reed REALIGN the Multi-verse?

Reed uses the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas & Remake the Multiverse

UN Destroys the Multiverse

UN Remakes the Multiverse in an instant

I could care less about these bios, but who ever prefers bios over on panel, here you go:

Several links where the Ultimat Nullifier was acknowledged as having REMADE the Multi-verse during the Abraxas arc.

In the Galactus bio: at marveldatabase
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Galactus
(Right above CHARACTERISTICS)
Galactus easily wrenched the Nullifer from Abraxas, giving it to Mister Fantastic, who used the weapon to destroy the multiverse. The result served to re-create the multiverse in which Abraxas never existed, and since all that was had ended, all that is was realigned.

In Abraxas bio: at marveldatabase
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Abraxas
(last sentence in his ORIGIN)
Galactus was eventually reconstituted by Franklin Richards who completely burned out his powers in the process. Reed Richards then used the Ultimate Nullifer to destroy the multiverse, and remake one in which Abraxas never existed.

In Galactus bio at wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactus
(last sentence in TEMPORARY DEATH)
Galactus easily reclaimed the Ultimate Nullifier from Abraxas and Reed Richards used it to remake the multiverse into one in which Abraxas never escaped.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Yeah, he's the Batman from Marvel. Except that he's a much better character.

I think you might have to retract that statement becuase batman transcends reed richards in every way possible

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Yeah, he's the Batman from Marvel. Except that he's a much better character.