And so the screw turn...
Brown the Liar! - 'mendacious'...great word.
No backing for Brown... - if not Brown, then who?
And so the screw turn...
Brown the Liar! - 'mendacious'...great word.
No backing for Brown... - if not Brown, then who?
that pretty much shows tony blairs two faced colours....he wont back brown despite the fact that it was their agreement way back in 1994 that brown would do the work while blair gave the party an electable image then after 2 terms blair would step down...those two terms ended in may and now blair wants to stay on til next may and then not back brown for the leadership
i can personally see the band ol' days of labour returning...the mid 80's...height of tory/thatcher rule...labour infighting and getting slaughtered at the polls while the union militants cried like little girls cause thatcher was smacking their collective botty
Originally posted by jaden101
that pretty much shows tony blairs two faced colours....he wont back brown despite the fact that it was their agreement way back in 1994 that brown would do the work while blair gave the party an electable image then after 2 terms blair would step down...those two terms ended in may and now blair wants to stay on til next may and then not back brown for the leadership
I'm sure there's some duplicity on Blair's part, but I think the Machiavellian nature of Brown's motions to get Blair out are a factor of Blair's resistance to backing him.
Originally posted by jaden101
i can personally see the band ol' days of labour returning...the mid 80's...height of tory/thatcher rule...labour infighting and getting slaughtered at the polls while the union militants cried like little girls cause thatcher was smacking their collective botty
Yeah, that looks almost inevitable now. I hope it doesn't come to pass, but I don't see how this current situation can be resolved in a manner beneficial to Labour.
I'm sure there's some duplicity on Blair's part, but I think the Machiavellian nature of Brown's motions to get Blair out are a factor of Blair's resistance to backing him.
i could understand that if it were just Brown wanting to grab power by undermining Blair...but it's more and more labour ministers and backbenchers everyday
it's quite plain that Blair is now doing more damage than good...none of the policies he wants implemented as his legacy are achievable in what little time he has left...and not just because there is little time but also because he has little respect left
ratifying the EU constitution...failed because france and the netherlands rejected it
securing the middle east peace process advancements...failed because of the israel-lebanon war
getting the NI assembly up and running again...failed cause Ian Paisley was elected
reforming schools...not enough time left
ID cards...too expensive
the only thing left that he can begin to do is make severe changes to enviromental policy or start living up to the G8 commitments
and those 2 things will hit the economy...which Brown probably wont allow to happen in a small time frame cause he would like the changes to be made slowly so as to not damage the economy too much and also to make it part of his leadership
Tony Blair is quite a good PM if you ignore the bullshit with Bush. I mean, he's made Britain the richest it's ever been, which is quite an acheivment after the whole John Major insident.
His views on immigrants might be a problem, seeing as we're getting more and more, but it might not be all that bad in the future.
His Big Brother idea about cameras is stupid, yeah it stops crime, (or does it?) but I don't think a camera for every 5 people in London isn't scary.
I still don't understand why he's still going nuclear, it makes me think if he's not really labour, he's conservative.
Over-all, I'd rate him 3/5 as PM.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Tony Blair is quite a good PM if you ignore the bullshit with Bush. I mean, he's made Britain the richest it's ever been, which is quite an acheivment after the whole John Major insident.His views on immigrants might be a problem, seeing as we're getting more and more, but it might not be all that bad in the future.
His Big Brother idea about cameras is stupid, yeah it stops crime, (or does it?) but I don't think a camera for every 5 people in London isn't scary.
I still don't understand why he's still going nuclear, it makes me think if he's not really labour, he's conservative.
Over-all, I'd rate him 3/5 as PM.
It seems like you are attempting to make sense, but you fail in almost every aspect.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Tony Blair is quite a good PM if you ignore the bullshit with Bush. I mean, he's made Britain the richest it's ever been, which is quite an acheivment after the whole John Major insident.
no he didn't...Gordon Brown is responsible for economic policy and has made all the major desicions...particularly making the bank of England independant from government
I still don't understand why he's still going nuclear, it makes me think if he's not really labour, he's conservative.
well done...after 9 1/2 years in power you finally realise what makes new labour different from old labour...they are exactly the same as the tories...hence they didn't reverse anything the tories did during their terms in government
Originally posted by jaden101Yes, I make shit up, but you don't have to say it when everyone already knows. 😐
no he didn't...Gordon Brown is responsible for economic policy and has made all the major desicions...particularly making the bank of England independant from governmentwell done...after 9 1/2 years in power you finally realise what makes new labour different from old labour...they are exactly the same as the tories...hence they didn't reverse anything the tories did during their terms in government
I once phoned up Radio Clyde in Glasgow when Tony was having a Q&A session. I asked him if he would be letting his newborn son have the MMR vaccination (A controversial anti Measles. Mumps and Rubella injection which is believed to cause autism in children) and he refused to answer my question. However, I do believe he is a good man at heart, he's just surrounded himself with a gang of thugs who influence his every decision. And his wife looks a right pain in the arse as well with her 750 pound haircuts etc.