U.S.A vs. Iran

Originally posted by Kinneary
After being here for 6 months and having a total of, what, 300 posts, I think it's pretty obvious that I don't care about post counts. Nice try, though.

Then why would you place any value on post counts in the first place? You kind of defeated yourself there, my man.

Originally posted by Kinneary
And once again, since apparently you're totally incapable of reading more than the first three sentences of any one paragraph, I immediately said afterwards that all of that had nothing to do with the point at hand. Seriously, are you capable of reading higher than a third grade level?

Haha, yet again you prove your own redundancy. Nice.

Originally posted by Kinneary
Back to the entire point of my original post:

The question is, just because we have them, does that mean we equip everyone with the means to end the world?

Well, here's the plain and simple truth: If the US has them, then why can't other nations have them, too? Especially as the US is the principal country bent on starting more wars (that it can't finish). Also, on current form, the most dangerous nation in the world is the US, and they're the ones with the most powerful weapons! That's kind of scary, don't you think?

(That bit about you thinking was a joke, by the way).

There are some people in these forums that need some serious help. Posts like "Communism is evil" really piss me of. I live in a country which used to be a socialist system and I should know the good sides and the bad sides. Not only that it wasn't as bad as the west makes it out to be, but if you ask anyone that lived in those times they will tell you that it was more secure and profitable than now. But the past is the past and I don't want to dwell on it.

I don't have anything against the USA but the whole "We are the peace keepers of the world and we'll attack whoever we want" is starting to get on everyones nerves. By who's judgement is attacking Iraq right? How many people died because of that war? And speaking of a nuclear war what if Iran retaliates and counter attacks the US with nukes? Won't that be World War III?

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Then why would you place any value on post counts in the first place? You kind of defeated yourself there, my man.

Haha, yet again you prove your own redundancy. Nice.

Well, here's the plain and simple truth: If the US has them, then why can't other nations have them, too? Especially as the US is the principal country bent on starting more wars (that it can't finish). Also, on current form, the most dangerous nation in the world is the US, and they're the ones with the most powerful weapons! That's kind of scary, don't you think?

nukes are bad, mmmk?

Nukes are pretty

they are rather sleek looking, arent they?

Originally posted by Kinneary
Do you even know what you're typing? Or does the fact that it makes absolutely no sense even register with you?

Sure, I know what I'm typing, and of course, it makes sense to me. Then again, I can see why you'd have difficulty with it because I'm not pandering to your remedial (canine) level. Step your game up, or duck out. I'm getting bored of stating the same thing time and time again, but you still fail to grasp it.

I'll state it one more time because I'm a nice man: You said some stuff about WWII, and then "I immediately said afterwards that all of that had nothing to do with the point at hand". Can you really not see your overt redundancy? Come on! You're kidding, right?

Originally posted by Kinneary
So if one country has the ability to destroy the world, you think everyone should have the capability to do the same thing? Seriously? You are aware that this isn't a Tom Clancy novel, right?

I think no-one should have the capability to destroy the world, but if one war-mongeriing, dangerous nation has it, then I can see the logic why other nations would want it, too. They react to a nation that shows obvious contempt for them by building the same nuclear capabilities as a deterrent to any potential invasion. It makes perfect sense. Surely you're not naive enough to believe that the US wants it only to "keep the peace"? Wait a minute...Yeah...You probably are!

Hahaha.

(Only respond to this post if you've - finally - managed to understand it).

i understand it!!!! and i agree with you.

Congatulations, you must have passed Grade 2!

Originally posted by AngryManatee
I'm gonna describe two countries, Country A and Country B. You tell me which one's America's ally and which is not.

Country A helped the US defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan and replace it with a pro-US elected alliance of moderate muslims. Country A regularly holds sort-of-free elections. Country A's women vote, hold office, are the majority of its university students and are fully integrated in the work force. On 9/11, residents of Country A were among the few in the muslim world to hold pro-US demonstrations. Country A has a strategic interest in the success of a pro-US, Shiite-led Iraqi government. Country A has respected the christian and jewish communities living within its borders. Country A's brand of Islam respects women and rejects Al Qaeda's nihilism.

Country B gave us 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11. Country B does not allow its women to drive, vote, or run for office. It is illegal in Country B to build a church, synagogue, or Hindu temple. Country B's private charities help sustain Al Qaeda. Men from Country B's mosques are regularly recruited for suicide bombings. While country B's leaders are pro-US, polls show that many of its people are hostile to America, and many of them celebrated on 9/11.Country B's brand of Islam is the most hostile to modernity and other faiths.

Saudi Arabia and Iran: Which country is country A, and which is Country B?

Like I said, the Saudis and USA are allies. The Americans are not and will not go to war with their main ally in the middle east. And certain members of the Saudi family aid the terrorists, not all of them as Osama has been vocal about hating the monarchy in Arabia.

And what are you pro-Persian? How has the Iran government respected the Christian and Jewish minorites living inside its borders. Have you seen the news lately? Their President is anti-semitic and there is only one Jewish represntive in all of Iran. Iran also wants to develop nuclear weapons. And those "Shiites" or whatever they are called that were celebrating in the US when Saddam was killed, they were led by a radical Imam. Subract the Jew-hating President and if they stopped developing nukes and let the Shah of Iran back then maybe the United States. should become friends with them.

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Originally posted by Rade
Subract the Jew-hating President and if they stopped developing nukes and let the Shah of Iran back then maybe the United States. should become friends with them.

You do know that the Shah was overthrown because he wasn't a very popular person in Iran right? The government before Iran's current was an oppressive monarchy that was established by the US, and tried to westernize them without consideration towards their beliefs. If anything, re-introducing the Shah would probably spark another rebellion in Iran. Dumb idea.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
You do know that the Shah was overthrown because he wasn't a very popular person in Iran right? The government before Iran's current was an oppressive monarchy that was established by the US, and tried to westernize them without consideration towards their beliefs. If anything, re-introducing the Shah would probably spark another rebellion in Iran. Dumb idea.

Edit: We're allies now with Arabia, but we seem to ally with countries that suit our purposes. Remember, we were in fact allies with Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War.

We were also selling weapons to Iran at the same time. And still are.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
You do know that the Shah was overthrown because he wasn't a very popular person in Iran right? The government before Iran's current was an oppressive monarchy that was established by the US, and tried to westernize them without consideration towards their beliefs. If anything, re-introducing the Shah would probably spark another rebellion in Iran. Dumb idea.

I was being sarcastic about the Shah being brought back in Iran. I also never mentioned how Iran funds terrorist groups like Hezbollah.