Originally posted by CantSpellMyName
Didn't Ion lose to Superboy Prime? I know SBP isn't someone to sneeze at, but no version of Superman, no matter how sun-dipped or badly written, will ever be more than a nuisance to the Devourer of Worlds at full power, so I don't see how Ion could stand a chance if he got beaten by SBP. If Ion couldn't take SBP, he won't take Galactus, and I think this can be regarded as fact. And even if Ion was somehow weakened in that fight (was he? I'm not that into DC) I still don't see how he could ever take on Big G. Galactus plays an essential part to the very existence of the Universe and from what I've heard is on par with Eternity (who basically encompasses the Marvel Multiverse and can't be defeated by anything less than the Infinity Gauntlet, which could erase a billion of SBP's from existence with ease), which would push the odds in Galactus favour even further. To be honest I don't see how any biological being from any fictional universe whatsoever (and yes, that includes Goku, duh) can take Galactus at full power. Defend themselves from his attacks perhaps, but take him? No way. It's like trying to take on time/space itself.
There is Ion the Whale, which has been in Kyle twice and Sodam Yat once.
And then there is Classic Ion, Kyle Rayner, with the Whale and the Full Power of the Central Battery and Guardians of the Universe within him, including all the power HalParallax used during Zero Hour.
Classic Ion is Abstract, Ion2 Kyle or Sodam Yat Ion is 'just' a super GL. Sodam Yat Ion is what lost to SPB.
Originally posted by LunacydeI have said this a dozen times it's always (horribly) countered by the scan where he claims the UN is a part of him which is irrelevant
Out of all the appearances with Galan the amount where he uses it or has it is a tiny fraction. It shouldn't be considered usual gear.
I don't really think it matters how powerful Ion is, Galactus is a force of nature that has existed since before the Universe was even created and has an apparently limitless ability to absorb and manipulate energy regardless of its nature and billions of years of experience, so even if Ion actually does have the power to defeat Galactus, Galactus should be able to use his cosmic awareness to find out how powerful Ion is and swiftly defeat him before he gets the chance to attack.
The seemingly only type of energy that is superior to Galactus is directly divine energy that originates from the Creation itself, and I just don't see why the God of DC would grant such omnipotent power to a potential villain like Ion. As far as I can recall, the only time fully powered Galactus has been defeated was when Thanos went berserk with the Infinity Gauntlet. The IG if I remember correctly was endowed with power from God himself, therefore its energy wasn't conventional even to an elite cosmic like Galactus and thus he couldn't manipulate it.
Marvel's knowledge of their own characters and their powers isn't always flawless however, as Spiderman once knocked out the Hulk and the Black Panther once restrained the Silver Surfer, but in my book, Galactus control over energy is limitless, so at best this should be a stalemate. I could be wrong so don't hate, but I just think that the thought of a once normal humanoid getting the best of a force of nature who is as fundamental as time/space itself and has a limitless ability to manipulate energy, regardless of the tools he has at his disposal, is absolutely absurd.
Originally posted by CantSpellMyNameI'm guessing you don't know what Ion is you are dismissed
I don't really think it matters how powerful Ion is, Galactus is a force of nature that has existed since before the Universe was even created and has an apparently limitless ability to absorb and manipulate energy regardless of its nature and billions of years of experience, so even if Ion actually does have the power to defeat Galactus, Galactus should be able to use his cosmic awareness to find out how powerful Ion is and swiftly defeat him before he gets the chance to attack.The seemingly only type of energy that is superior to Galactus is directly divine energy that originates from the Creation itself, and I just don't see why the God of DC would grant such omnipotent power to a potential villain like Ion. As far as I can recall, the only time fully powered Galactus has been defeated was when Thanos went berserk with the Infinity Gauntlet. The IG if I remember correctly was endowed with power from God himself, therefore its energy wasn't conventional even to an elite cosmic like Galactus and thus he couldn't manipulate it.
Marvel's knowledge of their own characters and their powers isn't always flawless however, as Spiderman once knocked out the Hulk and the Black Panther once restrained the Silver Surfer, but in my book, Galactus control over energy is limitless, so at best this should be a stalemate. I could be wrong so don't hate, but I just think that the thought of a once normal humanoid getting the best of a force of nature who is as fundamental as time/space itself and has a limitless ability to manipulate energy, regardless of the tools he has at his disposal, is absolutely absurd.
Originally posted by CantSpellMyNameION can manipulate reality itself. He is powerful enough to destroy and recreate the Universe if he so wishes.
I don't really think it matters how powerful Ion is, Galactus is a force of nature that has existed since before the Universe was even created and has an apparently limitless ability to absorb and manipulate energy regardless of its nature and billions of years of experience, so even if Ion actually does have the power to defeat Galactus, Galactus should be able to use his cosmic awareness to find out how powerful Ion is and swiftly defeat him before he gets the chance to attack.The seemingly only type of energy that is superior to Galactus is directly divine energy that originates from the Creation itself, and I just don't see why the God of DC would grant such omnipotent power to a potential villain like Ion. As far as I can recall, the only time fully powered Galactus has been defeated was when Thanos went berserk with the Infinity Gauntlet. The IG if I remember correctly was endowed with power from God himself, therefore its energy wasn't conventional even to an elite cosmic like Galactus and thus he couldn't manipulate it.
Marvel's knowledge of their own characters and their powers isn't always flawless however, as Spiderman once knocked out the Hulk and the Black Panther once restrained the Silver Surfer, but in my book, Galactus control over energy is limitless, so at best this should be a stalemate. I could be wrong so don't hate, but I just think that the thought of a once normal humanoid getting the best of a force of nature who is as fundamental as time/space itself and has a limitless ability to manipulate energy, regardless of the tools he has at his disposal, is absolutely absurd.