Psylocke runs the gauntlet.

That's Pre-HOM. Apparently Iceman has lost his "Omeganess" because of Scarlet Witch.

War downed Bobby in one blow in the recent arc.

If we're talking Post-HoM, no Omega-feats Iceman, then yeah, he goes down.

Otherwise, I'm not sure she could take him.

Actually Iceman was able to re-evaporate himself in X-men 😐

Of course it nearly killed him though

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Haha, alright then. Scared me for a minute there, Grimm.

I scared myself for a minute there 😆

Iceman has to iceup now like Torch flames on.

Although this only takes a couple of seconds, a TK bubble in the head is faster. ✅

Originally posted by Grimm22
Actually Iceman was able to re-evaporate himself in X-men 😐

Of course it nearly killed him though

✅

I'd wager they were referring to the fact that he condensed from steam directly to an ice form using his own "body," if that makes sense--in other words, his own moisture. I guess they're saying that every other time he has solidified from his vapor form he has "borrowed" moisture from the air or others around him to re-form. Perhaps because of all the fire, he couldn't use any moisture in the air to create another body.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
But Ms Marvel Rogue manouvers at high speeds meaning she has heightened reflexes no? So Betsy wouldn't be equally as fast? And doesn't IronMan have heightened reflexes too?

Betsy is also a highly-trained, highly-accomplished ninja. Which gives her more heightened reflexes than normal. Enhanced, I'd say.

Iron Man has heigtened reflexes via his suit. So, yes.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Betsy is also a highly-trained, highly-accomplished ninja. Which gives her more heightened reflexes than normal. Enhanced, I'd say.

Iron Man has heigtened reflexes via his suit. So, yes.

I suppose the Ms Marvel reflexes won't make a difference because she's not that fast when compared to other heroes...and Betsy's reflexes are only slightly above normal humans in terms of body reflexes...which doesn't really make a difference..because people who read a lot would also have above normal thought processing....

Anyway can't IronMan speed blitz her...or blast her before she thinks

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I suppose the Ms Marvel reflexes won't make a difference because she's not that fast when compared to other heroes...and Betsy's reflexes are only slightly above normal humans in terms of body reflexes...which doesn't really make a difference..because people who read a lot would also have above normal thought processing....

Anyway can't IronMan speed blitz her...or blast her before she thinks

Well surely she can just think a TK shield just as fast.

It really all comes down to, yet again, to how fast one can think versus the speed of another action.

**FI**

Originally posted by FireIncarnate
Well surely she can just think a TK shield just as fast.

It really all comes down to, yet again, to how fast one can think versus the speed of another action.

**FI**

Well with IronMans new upgrade his reflexes are uber...and since the Storm vs IronMan ended up with IronMan speedblitzing her before she could even think...I think it's safe to say that he could react faster and blast Psylocke before she could even think....

Also since his suits technology is partly Shiar tech...wouldn't his suit be TK proof...remember in New X-Men during Morrisons run...the Shiar came after the Phoenix with TK proof armour..

Iceman is still an Omega, he just seems to forget it in every comic he ever appears.

Thor stops her. Everyone before that dies.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Well with IronMans new upgrade his reflexes are uber...and since the Storm vs IronMan ended up with IronMan speedblitzing her before she could even think...I think it's safe to say that he could react faster and blast Psylocke before she could even think....

Also since his suits technology is partly Shiar tech...wouldn't his suit be TK proof...remember in New X-Men during Morrisons run...the Shiar came after the Phoenix with TK proof armour..

I think she would at least just erect a TK shield firstly to defend herself from his initial speed blitz or whatever. Then tear the place apart via TK or another finding another method to take him down.

**FI**

Originally posted by FireIncarnate
I think she would at least just erect a TK shield firstly to defend herself from his initial speed blitz or whatever. Then tear the place apart via TK or another finding another method to take him down.

**FI**

The Question is...can she erect a shield before he blasts her or blitzes her?

As for the Shiar Psi armour...I'm not sure if he has that...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The Question is...can she erect a shield before he blasts her or blitzes her?

As for the Shiar Psi armour...I'm not sure if he has that...

I think she can. The reason that Storm gets taken out so quickly, is that she has no TK or TP to stop such a fast opponent. But, seeing as Betsy does have TK and enhanced reflexes, she would be able to JUUUUUST construct a shield right before she's blasted.

Basically, she'd be cutting it close.

Psylocke destroys everyone up to Thor.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I think she can. The reason that Storm gets taken out so quickly, is that she has no TK or TP to stop such a fast opponent. But, seeing as Betsy does have TK and enhanced reflexes, she would be able to JUUUUUST construct a shield right before she's blasted.

Basically, she'd be cutting it close.

Psylocke destroys everyone up to Thor.

Fair enough...I'll give Betsy the benefit of the doubt....Thor it is...