Originally posted by Starscream MIsn't that already what you're sying half the time Wolverine says he can take anybody, or heal from anything, or well any pro-wolverine statement he ever makes.
oh, so being arrogant is akin to lying now?wow, then Wolverine is one of the biggest liars.
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Originally posted by jinzin
I want to say a defenders... I don't know, I remember it being an older issue.
My bad, I just remembered, Panther and Hulk got it on 4 times. The two older fights when as follows.
Hulks wrecking shit mad as hell, but for some reason its a good thing as the avengers need to destroy a building. Panther attacks hulk, making his madder on purpose, he also starts ringing this big is bell type things making him even madder, building gets destroyed fight ends.
2nd fight was where panther and hulk fought in a construction site, Panther flat out said "I have to be careful, one blow of his mighty hands will surely kill me". Next panel, panther is swatted across the sky. End fight.
So I don't know where you get this impossible to possible stuff from either of those fights.
Originally posted by ApolloknightI'm not saying that's speculation.
You see that's the thing. It is NOT speculation that he can generate his daggers from his gloves,
Originally posted by ApolloknightTHERE'S the speculation I'm talking about! 😱
and it is also not speculation that with a touch it would F*** creeds world all up.
Originally posted by ApolloknightAh yes, mintues, well you're certainly proving you know more than me now huh? 🙄
I'm not saying they would down him for good and give panther the win; hell creed probably would get back up a few minutes later and continue the fight.
Originally posted by ApolloknightWith a thought Creed could break his neck. Panther was bleeding out and losing air already who's going to be more clear headed?
All I'm saying is that with a thought his daggers will generate; his hands were already clasped around creeds arm and in place.That is not speculation.
Originally posted by Starscream MHe applied it to make his point more effective in demonstrating the difference between the two as well as detailing Panther's vulnerability in that situation.
did you just apply real life science to comics...I believe you did.how many times have guys like spiderman, captain america, black panther, DD, etc been thrown through brick walls without any broken bones. Comic heroes are all extremely durable.
throw a regular human in real life with enough force to break through a brick wall and all that will be left is blood splatter on the wall.
Originally posted by ApolloknightIf I come across it I'll post what I'm refering to it may have been a Namor fight too. As I said I don't remember.
My bad, I just remembered, Panther and Hulk got it on 4 times. The two older fights when as follows.Hulks wrecking shit mad as hell, but for some reason its a good thing as the avengers need to destroy a building. Panther attacks hulk, making his madder on purpose, he also starts ringing this big is bell type things making him even madder, building gets destroyed fight ends.
2nd fight was where panther and hulk fought in a construction site, Panther flat out said "I have to be careful, one blow of his mighty hands will surely kill me". Next panel, panther is swatted across the sky. End fight.
So I don't know where you get this impossible to possible stuff from either of those fights.
Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not saying that's speculation.THERE'S the speculation I'm talking about! 😱
Ah yes, mintues, well you're certainly proving you know more than me now huh? 🙄With a thought Creed could break his neck. Panther was bleeding out and losing air already who's going to be more clear headed?
Who is going to be more clearhead? Didnt you say eairler that creed had been through all of this and that and was still hurting etc etc?
Originally posted by Starscream M
did you just apply real life science to comics...I believe you did.how many times have guys like spiderman, captain america, black panther, DD, etc been thrown through brick walls without any broken bones. Comic heroes are all extremely durable.
throw a regular human in real life with enough force to break through a brick wall and all that will be left is blood splatter on the wall.
They all have superhuman strength which means their muscles can absorb / mitigate much more damage than normal human. The muscles in Panther's neck are no where near strong enough to prevent Creed from popping Panther's head off and their would be even if Creed was 1/4 as strong as he is.
No, I said Creed had been through that and wasn't at peak capacity.
Nice way to avoid the point though 😉
Creed had his hands wrapped around BP's neck, BP was already bleeding out one squeeze ends the fight on Creeds part where Panther needs to generate and attack using a weapon that as Srank already pointed out may not even effect Creed... This is the Creed who had had his neck broken and ran as soon as hitting the ground, stood up imediately after being shot from space into a crater, and railed his way through logan with ease after taking 3 claws to the heart.
Originally posted by jinzin
No, I said Creed had been through that and wasn't at peak capacity.Nice way to avoid the point though 😉
Creed had his hands wrapped around BP's neck, BP was already bleeding out one squeeze ends the fight on Creeds part where Panther needs to generate and attack using a weapon that as Srank already pointed out may not even effect Creed... This is the Creed who had had his neck broken and ran as soon as hitting the ground, stood up imediately after being shot from space into a crater, and railed his way through logan with ease after taking 3 claws to the heart.
I mean you may be right, all im saying is I've seen panther pull some s*** out of his a** before and he doesnt make to many bluffs.
I'm not even conviced the energy daggers are even part of Panther's current stanard equipment, they've only showed up once in years as dues-ex machina deviced to get him out of jam... why not use them more often? I can think of scores of times in Huldins run where they would have been more than a little useful.
Originally posted by srankmissingninhe still has his razor sharp claws and vibranium suit
I'm not even conviced the energy daggers are even part of Panther's current stanard equipment, they've only showed up once in years as dues-ex machina deviced to get him out of jam... why not use them more often? I can think of scores of times in Huldins run where they would have been more than a little useful.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
I mean you may be right, all im saying is I've seen panther pull some s*** out of his a** before and he doesnt make to many bluffs.
Panther is pretty self serving though. He didn't tell anyone the Skrulls were invading, he doesn't share his cures for cancer with the rest of the world, and he joined the Avengers to spy on them, telling Wolverine that he was helpless and Creed was about to kill him is of no possible benefit to him and Panther is always looking to one up everyone.
Originally posted by srankmissingninhe didn't have to tell Wolverine he was helpless. he could've just thanked Logan if he really thought logan saved his butt and still held his honor.
telling Wolverine that he was helpless and Creed was about to kill him is of no possible benefit to him and Panther is always looking to one up everyone.
Originally posted by jinzinYou act as if BP was performing at his best either, when he was clearly holding back, he neglected to even transform his suit into his smart-armor, having anti-metal claws as well as energy daggers means he woulve been out of sabretooths choke hold in a second had wolverine not interfered, , or a simple kick to the face would've done seeing as he had all limps free, BP still had many cardson the table and I fail to see how having use of all of his ligaments as well as the ability to project energy daggers from his hands (which were free at the time) in any way points to sabretooth having him dead to rights....
*sigh*Traded punches equally? You DO of course realise that aside from Sabretooth being jumped by BP from behind that he was nowhere near peak capacity...?
He had been through a knock down drag out knuckle buster with Wolverine and had his head impaled, survived and fought his way out of a ground zero nose dive from the Blackbird, recovered from an inferno, and presumably got the shit shocked out him by storm.. And he STILL had Black Panther dead to rights.You can pretend that he had the advantage with his belly cut open and his wind pipe about to be crushed and garroted out but it just looks silly to anyone else who isn't an obvious Black Panther fan.
Sabretooth doesn't have Admantium in his bones as of his current state. You repeating over and over again that BP has Anti-metal claws doesn't mean they'll do anything against Sabretooth that normal claws wouldn't.
BP was being honest when he said wolverines intervention was unnecessary