Originally posted by bigbran
When was this?
I thought Supes was only able to go at 22x lightspeed.
Superman has apparently made a trip from Earth to Saturn in seconds (not during the Lex 2000 special), that would mean he can travel several thousand times the speed of light. It’s there in the respect thread.
Then again if you want to get really technical, Supes T-vo's SS and the runner right off the bat, game over.
Originally posted by Rols
Do you even know what T-vo is man? Sayin T-vo this and T-vo that does not guarantee you automatic win.. If thats the case i could say SS can never be defeated since he has the ability to reasemble himself up when he no longer has any physical body and can increase the potential output of his PC to pretty much any level he chooses, also he can adapt to any situation, can upgrade himself up surpassing even his master.. Ex. fight w/ Blackbody; upgraded himself up when Blackbody absorbs his soul, after defeating blackbody SS acquired his opponents ability to absorbs souls of the living also he increased the level of energy he could absorb and then theres his fight w/ Unilord. Can also depowered Owen Reece by absorbing all his powers and this guy fought Beyonder whose multiversal in power and a lot higher than Dominus... Each one of this guys have their own unique abilities granting them quick win so sayin t-vo automaticly gave Supes a win, you've got to be a pretty devoted fanboy.. This match could go either way... but i gave SS/runner 6/10.
Except T-vo works on abstracts, multiversal powers, and things that exist in and out of the DC universe that have no physical form and can rearrange matter and reality on a level SS never has, as well as being able to erase what he wants including super heroes.
In response to darths comment that supes need a yellow sun to stay in the fight, so you think Supes has no reserves, have you ever seen Supes stamina feats? He can go a long time without any solar energy.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I never said that Supes couldn't. But see, unlike Supes, Surfer isn't powered by solar energy, so unless Supes is carrying one around in his back pocket for something, I don't see how that's relevent.And I'd go to bed to, if I was getting owned as bad as you are. 😄
Owned? Well if you think so sure! You keep thinking tht. 😄
Originally posted by Inhuman
funny that superman is most likely the first one to go down of these 4.
And some are debating he would be the X factor 🙄
He has weaknesses that would be exploited. And is fighting people who can exploit them no less.
Explain why Supes is the first one to go down? He's not going to be a standing target.
Originally posted by Inhuman
funny that superman is most likely the first one to go down of these 4.
And some are debating he would be the X factor 🙄
He has weaknesses that would be exploited. And is fighting people who can exploit them no less.
Again your statements are like you don't know of Supes feats or as if you do not read superman comics.
Do you know that supes has time and time resisted and overcome energy absortion and energy manipulation, the only one who has drained Supes (which it couldn't even fully drain supes) was the parasite which supes defeated anyway.
supes bio-field protects him from energy absorbtion and matter manipulation as well as heat, cold, dammage, etc.
T-vo has been shown with on panel evidence that it trascends universal power and multiversal, in that it took down Dominus who as Avalon posted the scans has been proven that he is a multiversal and beyond power.
Supes doesnt need a constant flow of energy, he has reserves which if you would see his feats, he can go a long time, and Supes can absorb other things aside from solar energy for energy, as shown when he absorbed the super sun eater which was a entity in itself.
Originally posted by dvampire
Explain why Supes is the first one to go down? He's not going to be a standing target.
That and he has on panel speed and reaction comparable to the Flash, and the Flash is far faster then the runner and that includes instant warping which the flash has out sped and overcome before.
Originally posted by dvampire
Explain why Supes is the first one to go down? He's not going to be a standing target.
for one thses 2 are some of the few who supes cant match speed wise.
Doesnt matter that he wont be standing still. He will sure as hell seem like it vs these 2.
second surfer has absorbed a red sun(the biggest sun of all) why couldnt he absorb a small fraction of a yellow sun residing inside superman?
Third he would get hit with red sun radiation or kriptonyte radiaion blasts + powercosmic, primordial blasts. Getting punched hundreds(thousands) of times a second.
I think that one if not all of these things would affect supes just a bit. dont you think? 🙄
These are way more things these 2 can do to him as well.
If you think supes is immune to anything these 2 can dish out then there is no point in reasoning.
Originally posted by Inhuman
for one thses 2 are some of the few who supes cant match speed wise.
Doesnt matter that he wont be standing still. He will sure as hell seem like it vs these 2.
second surfer has absorbed a red sun(the biggest sun of all) why couldnt he absorb a small fraction of a yellow sun residing inside superman?
Third he would get hit with red sun radiation or kriptonyte radiaion blasts + powercosmic, primordial blasts. Getting punched hundreds(thousands) of times a second.I think that one if not all of these things would affect supes just a bit. dont you think? 🙄
These are way more things these 2 can do to him as well.
If you think supes is immune to anything these 2 can dish out then there is no point in reasoning.
again you act as if Supes is not on SS speed, which in fact in combat Supes speed feats surpass SS, and in travel again your ignoring Supes feats when he has shown comparable speed to SS, so no hes not going ot be standing still and its not going to seem like he is compared to these two.
Because Supes can react and move with Flash who is far faster then SS and the runner combined, if Supes can hang with him fine then these two wont blitzing him as you believe, and secondly going by on panel evidence SS has never speed blitzed in combat ever, and going by on panel showings SS often gets speed blitzed in combat and has poor combat and and combat reaction speed, or need I mention the multiple (MANY) times he has been blitzed and out sped in combat?
By the way Supes has shown hes "immune" to kryptonite more and more to the point where it doesn't even seem to affect him, want on panel evidence of this? Check out IC#7 and also check out with supes fought lex luthor on a ship made entirely of Kyrptonite, and he did this for a prolonged period of time, so SS can blast him with Knite all he wants, supes is just going to blitz him (which MANY who are far slower have done easly) and ko him with 3 punches ala thor.
Or are you going to call the majority of SS battles where he is outboxed, speed blitzed in combat, all PIS?
Originally posted by Jesse7
again you act as if Supes is not on SS speed, which in fact in combat Supes speed feats surpass SS, and in travel again your ignoring Supes feats when he has shown comparable speed to SS, so no hes not going ot be standing still and its not going to seem like he is compared to these two.Because Supes can react and move with Flash who is far faster then SS and the runner combined, if Supes can hang with him fine then these two wont blitzing him as you believe, and secondly going by on panel evidence SS has never speed blitzed in combat ever, and going by on panel showings SS often gets speed blitzed in combat and has poor combat and and combat reaction speed, or need I mention the multiple (MANY) times he has been blitzed and out sped in combat?
By the way Supes has shown hes "immune" to kryptonite more and more to the point where it doesn't even seem to affect him, want on panel evidence of this? Check out IC#7 and also check out with supes fought lex luthor on a ship made entirely of Kyrptonite, and he did this for a prolonged period of time, so SS can blast him with Knite all he wants, supes is just going to blitz him (which MANY who are far slower have done easly) and ko him with 3 punches ala thor.
Or are you going to call the majority of SS battles where he is outboxed, speed blitzed in combat, all PIS?
The 3 punches was PIS and in a crossover. Dont mention such crap to me.
I do think that in H2H superman beats thor, but in a lenthy fight.
Thor with hammer gets the majority IMO.
Anyhow dont act like surfer cant take any physical harm.(like take a punch) ❌
That shows me you know nothing of surfer. Just cause thanos does it doesnt mean anyone can.
I have scans of surfer taking punches from the likes of she-hulk, iron-man and others to have little to no effect. Not saying supes punches wont phase surfer but it wont be like 1 or 2 punches and hes out. Please. 🙄
Originally posted by Jesse7
Again your statements are like you don't know of Supes feats or as if you do not read superman comics.Do you know that supes has time and time resisted and overcome energy absortion and energy manipulation, the only one who has drained Supes (which it couldn't even fully drain supes) was the parasite which supes defeated anyway.
supes bio-field protects him from energy absorbtion and matter manipulation as well as heat, cold, dammage, etc.