Originally posted by bigbran
Beside Darkseid being a supposed abstract.....Hmmm. How would Darky cope with some of his illusions?
But isn't Darkseid an accomplished Telepath.
The contridictions keep coming.I'll say Darkseid.
Dominus is also an abstract.
He doesn't really do many illusions...he literally warps reality.
Nothing like a good powerhouse battle. 🙂
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindI was being sarcastic...😐
Dominus is also an abstract.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindNo, I was saying that Darkseid can maybe defend himself.
He doesn't really do many illusions...he literally warps reality.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindIndeed.
Nothing like a good powerhouse battle. 🙂
Originally posted by bigbran
I was being sarcastic...😐
I know. Word still needed to get out. 🙂
Originally posted by bigbran
I thought they were both skyfather levels.
They are both above skyfather.
Originally posted by bigbran
No, I was saying that Darkseid can maybe defend himself.
Any suggestions? I'm curious about this one.
Originally posted by bigbran
Indeed.
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Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I know. Word still needed to get out. 🙂
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
They are both above skyfather.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Any suggestions? I'm curious about this one.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind😄
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Originally posted by bigbran
Still, Darkseid isn't an abstract.
I'm not sure what to think about that. I've heard many claims. What I've seen is high skyfather level... I'm still researching him to learn more.
Originally posted by bigbran
Doesn't put them on an abstract level.
Dominus is...he's essentially his own universe.
Originally posted by bigbran
I mean with Darkseid's tp, he can possibly defend himself against Dominus.
He'd lose(in a mind game), but that doesn't mean he's necissarly going to lose this battle.
That's what we're here to determine.
Originally posted by bigbran
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Originally posted by AvalonofthewindThat's just one person's opinion. The same person who claimed PC Kryptonians are abstracts.
I'm not sure what to think about that. I've heard many claims. What I've seen is high skyfather level... I'm still researching him to learn more.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Dominus is...he's essentially his own universe.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindYes.
That's what we're here to determine.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindOne thing. No Superman hate or anything.(I haven't done that in a while anyway)
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That's like Warlock taking down someone over Eternity.
Originally posted by bigbran
That's just one person's opinion. The same person who claimed PC Kryptonians are abstracts.
I'de put Darkseid on an Odin level or above.So is basically Unilord.
Yes.
One thing. No Superman hate or anything.(I haven't done that in a while anyway)
How is an abstract afraid of him, while Superman can take him down?That's like Warlock taking down someone over Eternity.
Why are you bringing me into this? For one, you have never heard me say Darkseid is high sky father. you have always heard me say that people say he is high skyfather. I myself have said that he is beyond sky father. Please don't bring me in discussions that have nothing to do with me or that I haven't even responded to. grow up. And I never said that PC kryptonians are abstract. I hate when idiots try and quote and insult and can't do it right. I said they were abstact in power!!!!!!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlI never gave a name. It could be anyone, as far as your concerned.
Why are you bringing me into this? For one, you have never heard me say Darkseid is high sky father. you have always heard me say that people say he is high skyfather. I myself have said that he is beyond sky father. Please don't bring me in discussions that have nothing to do with me or that I haven't even responded to. grow up. And I never said that PC kryptonians are abstract. I hate when idiots try and quote and insult and can't do it right. I said they were abstact in power!!!!!!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I said they were abstact in power!!!!!!
Originally posted by bigbran
I never gave a name. It could be anyone, as far as your concerned.
And why don't you grow up, and don't call people idiots.
I never quoted anything, nor did I say my word was exact.I'de look for your exact quote, but both are wrong, so what's the point?
Ok, when you show me superman PC not doing rediculous things that looks like someone decided they would just make supers even more rediculously powerful, then I'll concede that he was not abstract in power. There was a reason he was retconned. He was TOOOOOOO POWERFUL.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlDon't you think that a skyfather and abstract level are really close?
Ok, when you show me superman PC not doing rediculous things that looks like someone decided they would just make supers even more rediculously powerful, then I'll concede that he was not abstract in power. There was a reason he was retconned. He was TOOOOOOO POWERFUL.
Bigbran, your post seem very biased against Superman, as Avalon has so nicely explaiend Dominus was warping realities and is essentially his own universe, how did Supes beat Dominus? T-vo, the very same T-vo which you argue won't affect "cosmic heralds".
Secondly I still stand by what I said, that post crisis superman in terms of importance, role, and purpose, is abstract level (notice I said purpose and importance) as well as DS, as both are protected by the source itself for the existence of existence purposes.
And finally, PC-Supes at his highest feats was above skyfather level, he was closing destroy and sealing realities and bridging dimensions/relaities by rubbing his hands and vibrating, he had complete mastery of speed and complete immunity to his weaknesses when he wanted to such as when he vibrated through red sun radiation, etc., etc.
I'm not a fanboy or fangirl, but I do think Superman and other DC characters are disliked on these forums by the majority and because of this, a skewed perception of them is formed and passed around.
Originally posted by Jesse7What are you talking about?
Bigbran, your post seem very biased against Superman,
Originally posted by Jesse7I asked that. Because it's like Thor beating Eternity, if Dominus was really as powerful as they say. Nothing more.
as Avalon has so nicely explaiend Dominus was warping realities and is essentially his own universe, how did Supes beat Dominus?
Originally posted by Jesse7I might have said that....quite a while ago. However, I don't remember saying it.
T-vo, the very same T-vo which you argue won't affect "cosmic heralds".
Originally posted by Jesse7So if they died, the universe would blow up? 😱
Secondly I still stand by what I said, that post crisis superman in terms of importance, role, and purpose, is abstract level (notice I said purpose and importance) as well as DS, as both are protected by the source itself for the existence of existence purposes.