Originally posted by Metalmanx
And by the way: Damn.Those feats right there are easily good enough to proof that Beast has superior agility.
And hell, that was Classic Beast, too. Hah...Wolverine having equal agility... 🙄
Originally posted by capt it up
no there not. dude most of those feats suck wait till I get home I will post a feat that destroys those feats and hell just becuase you whine so much I post some of beast best feats
Those feats don't "suck." You can say Wolverine has equal or greater agility feats, but sometimes you have to give credit where credit is due. 😬 And on top of it, those feats were preformed by CLASSIC Beast...
Originally posted by batdude123
Those feats don't "suck." You can say Wolverine has equal or greater agility feats, but sometimes you have to give credit where credit is due. 😬 And on top of it, those feats were preformed by CLASSIC Beast...
Originally posted by capt it up
HMMM lets see shall we?Stamina goes to wolverine
Fighting skill goes to wolverine
Experience goes to wolverine
Durability goes to wolverine
Healing factor goes to wolverine
Strength is a tossup since beast has no strength feats over wolverines unless you can prove other wise.
Agility again a tossup since wolverine can match the feats’
Speed another tossup.
Reflex I believe would go to logan.Beast has no advantage in this fight. He may at best have a slight advantage in one maybe 2 areas.
Beast gets stabbed once and he ko or dead.
Now if beast stabs wolverine, wolverine won’t even flinch
This is all such bull. I agree, Wolvy would (eventually) win, but, as Bats said, give credit where credit is due. And, if you look to the next couple posts made right after the claims I've quoted were posted, you'll see I've already stepped out to do that.
Now.
You claim that those who support Beast are 'wiggling' to get out from providing evidence. But, I have read right from when you posted this until now, and you, in that time frame, failed to support one solitary claim, though still going out of your way to state that you were 'one up'. Which is bull. In fact, I don't think you've even mentioned a single incident which would back up your claims. It would be understandable, to some degree at least, if you were a 'two and a half' hours drive from your place, which you may very well be. But you constantly argue that you could ' easily prove it, if the cd worked, etc.' Slightly contradictory, no? Furthermore, you constantly berate the opposition for 'wiggling' around, and yet you in fact are exactly the same, if not worse. You have made what seems like dozens of lame excuses, which contradict eachother in every aspect, except for the fact that they all rely on you being lazy.
On top of that, you making further claims by stating yourself to apparently be a much more avid fan here, which I judge by the amount of issues you apparently have within arms reach. 😗
Sure beast will lose in the end, but to say that wolverine's agility and strenght are close to beasts than to me you're just a fanboy.
But I guess everybody knew that capt is one.
You wanted proof batdude posted pics of his agility, I gave a avengers 137 issue where beast shows his agility, for strenght check x-factor 30-33.
Originally posted by capt it up
I for one think beast and wolevrine are tied in agility
And you are the only one who thinks that. Whether one may think that wolverine could beat beast in a fight or not...the above comment is just ridiculous.
I'm not asking you who would win in a fight between the following two, but who do you believe is more agile, Spiderman or Wolverine?
Originally posted by H. S. 6
Scan?
Here's that scan -
As for the Beast and Wolverine, if prep was allowed, The Beast 8/10. He's one of the smartest people in the Marvel Universe. I can see him easily creating some type of drug or gas to take Wolverine down. If its just some backyard brawl, Wolverine 8/10.
Originally posted by Grimm22Beast is slightly more agile than Wolverine. If Cap has no problem with Beast's agility and Wolverine is Cap's physical superior than neither will Wolverine.
Beast is much more agile than Wolverine is
Originally posted by Grimm22
Also his animal senses are far above Wolverine's
Originally posted by MetalmanxYou only say that because Wolverine has punked Beast 2 out of 3 times. You are all pathetic. If someone wrecks Wolverine it's a legitimate win. When Wolverine wrecks someone it's BS/CIS/PIS etc. It's really sad.
Honestly, they've never really had a good, determing fight.
Originally posted by marvelprinceNo it wouldn't. Beast cannot compare to Wolverine's level of berserker-ness. Wolverine's berserker rage beats Beast's temper tantrums 10/10.
Now what would be interesting would be to see berserker Wolverine vs feral Beast (Beast in that issue of Uncanny when they were fighting the danger room). That would be a ferocious display of two bloodthirsty animals going at it
Originally posted by outavodkaThat was the biggest load of crap I've ever read. The ENTIRE team gets pawned by Danger in a cakewalk, yet BEAST of all people takes her down SOLO. Now that was PIS beyond anything Wolverine has ever done.
If you wana see Beast's latest great moment of rage go look at Astonishing XMen Dangerous Arch. I say I beast goes full animal hes got 5/10 6 maybe or maybe im under esmatin him alltogethr.
Originally posted by StyleTimeI would say no. Wolverine has a MUCH better chance of getting a knock out against Beast.
Does Beast have what it takes to actually knock Wolverine out for a win?
Originally posted by StyleTimeI would say no. Wolverine has a MUCH better chance of getting a knock out against Beast.
Does Beast have what it takes to actually knock Wolverine out for a win?
Originally posted by Darth MartinNo. Wolverine beat the crap out of Caliban without his claws and Caliban also has superhuman durability, something Hank does not have last time I checked. Caliban is a BEAST compared to McCoy, yet Wolverine stomps him too.
Wolverine wins 6-10 only due to his claws and superior fighting skills. Otherwise Logan would get raped. BEAST ROCKS!!! So Underrated
Originally posted by jinzinDoes Grimm ever back up squat?
yeah... until beast can feel the air shifting behind him,hears the heatbeating of someone 200 yards away in a cave,
or smells genetic clones, lying, and infection... wolverine's senses are far more impressive.. unless of course you have feats to back that claim grimm...
Originally posted by MetalmanxBeast wont be knocking Wolverine out. Wolverine takes Hulk punches and remains concious. Beast got put in a COMA from getting hit in the head by Beak's bat. Wolverine knocks out Roughouse who is near Hulk level. Who's getting knocked out first? You tell me-and try not to BS too much.
Yes, he does.
Originally posted by MetalmanxBwahahahahaha!!! Beast's claws can't hold a candle to.....any other person's claws really. He ruined them scratching some math equations into some metal.
Razor-sharp claws.
Originally posted by MetalmanxThat's even funnier than the claw comment. I'd like to see someone try and prove this. Beast is not anywhere near this strong.
Class 30 strength.
Originally posted by MetalmanxNothing that Wolverine doesn't have and better.
Superhuman endurance as well.
Originally posted by MetalmanxBeast's slight healing factor wont allow him to survive any solid claw attack from Wolverine. It helps him heal MILD injuries injuries. Nothing mild about the damage Wolverine inflicts.
Superhuman healing factor (not as good as Wolvie's, but still hella good, able to keep him in this fight).
Originally posted by MetalmanxNo, Wolverine's natural durability is more than human and he has an adamantium skeleton to boot. Beast is not more durable.
Beast also has the advantage in terms of actual durability. While Wolverine is more resiliant, Beast is more durable.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Agility and speed far superior to Wolverine's.
Wolverine's speed is greater than Beast's. His speed feats leave Hank in the dust. Hank can travel 40 mph on all fours in short bursts. Wolverine moves faster than humans can see. That beats a measley 40 mph any day of the week.
Originally posted by MetalmanxWolverine was taking out entire Nazi patrols before Beast's parents made it to the second grade.
Beast has been dodging and countering countless bad guys before Wolverine was even a twinkle in his creator's eye.
Originally posted by MetalmanxBetter than Wolverine's hit and run tactics? Not a chance. And you might keep in mind that when Beast does the RUN part Wolverine will instantly heal whatever damage was done.
Lots of hit and run tactics will work here.
Originally posted by MetalmanxPlease do not try and make an argument that Wolverine can't make contact with Beast. Wolverine has hit Beast EVERY time they have fought. Wolverine has no problem hitting Spider-Man and Nightcrawler and they are both far harder to hit than Beast.
Can't hurt what you can't hit.
Originally posted by MetalmanxI think Beast gets killed every single time. He's not going to deal anywhere near as much damage as say Sabretooth, and he wont heal anywhere near fast enough to survive. Wolverine needs 2 or 3 solid shots at most to end this fight. Beast can pound on him all day and he'll just break his paws.
I think Beast wins the slight majority here, 6/10.
Originally posted by MetalmanxAh, NO. Prove it. I have seen nothing to make that assumption.
Actually, as of late, Beast's senses are on par with Wolverine's.
In Astonishing Beast smells something. Wolverine instantly knows that it is: "Female. Dead." Wolverine's sense of smell is apparantly stronger than Daredevil's is. Are you going to compare Beast to him?
Originally posted by MetalmanxThat is some of the most idiotic reasoning I have ever read. Here is your reasoning in action:
Sorry to disappoint. Comes with being more animalistic.
Wolverine is more animalistic than Superman, therefor his senses must be better.
WRONG!!
Originally posted by xmarksthespotWho cares about the forum? Wolverine has beaten her in the comic. She can't phase through Wolverine, therefor she dies.
Oh I do hope you're not trying to imply Wolverine stands a chance in hell against Shadowcat on the forums.
Originally posted by Grimm22He came up with that answer because it's the right one.
Gee I wonder how you came up with that answer 🙄 😆
Originally posted by Grimm22More of the same stupidity. Furrier does not = better senses. Your logic stinks and lacks any support as usual.
First, Beast is well as his name implies A BEAST!
Wolverine has animal senses, but he isnt an animal.
Beast is 😐
Originally posted by MetalmanxGrimm's knowledge of everything sucks.
Knowledge of Wolverine or not, Grimm's knowledge of Thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your knowledge of the Thing.
Originally posted by BrutacusYeah, at boggle or maybe super mario bros. In a fight all he'd win against Wolverine would be a death certificate and a free ride to the morgue.
beast wins 😄
Originally posted by MetalmanxJesus what is wrong with you? He does not have the ability to post anything. He is saying even if he did post for Beast the evidence would still not even come close to proving that Beast's agility would be a factor in this fight anyway because the Wolverine evidence he has proves Wolverine would not have trouble dealing with Beast's agility, whatever level it is at. Christ!!
Ah. So what you're saying is, your comic book evidence WOULD in fact HELP my argument?
Originally posted by MetalmanxI dont see Wolverine anywhere in those scans, so they prove nothing. Beast's agility in those scans look like he is frikkin flying, so are you going to say he's faster than Supes and more agile than Spidey? Thought not.
And by the way: Damn. Those feats right there are easily good enough to proof that Beast has superior agility.
Originally posted by MetalmanxYeah, those scans of CLASSIC Beast show greater agility than APE or Cat Beast have ever shown, yet that makes no sense since he is more agile now, thus you have to chalk it up to Kirby's exaggerated action style, which is exactly what it is.
And hell, that was Classic Beast, too. Hah...Wolverine having equal agility... 🙄
Originally posted by Grimm22Well that's a bad source to use since Wolverine's physical stats are all ENHANCED, therefor according to your Beast source Wolverine's agility is equal to Beast's. Good job.
It was stated in Civil War Files that Beast has Superhuman Strength and Enchanced Agility 😉
Originally posted by KharmaDogWolverine would win the fight, but Spidey is more agile. Even Spidey's agility, which is greater than Beast's does not allow him to evade Wolverine or Cap for very long.
the above comment is just ridiculous. I'm not asking you who would win in a fight between the following two, but who do you believe is more agile, Spiderman or Wolverine?