Originally posted by srankmissingninSparks were flying also. In order to create sparks there would have to be a good amount of force involved into the attack.
It says right in the narration "raked". Raked is a synonym for scratched/scraped... if it wasn't a glancing blow imagine the writer would have used a more accurate word.
Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
It was a glancing blow?Also, so if Wolverine can cut an opponent, he automatically wins?
Anyone that lakes a) a significant speed advantage, b) invulnerability/a healing factor or c) flight/ranged capabilities, will lose the majority to Wolverine.
Some one roughly the same speed or slower, who has no option but melee and who is vulnerable to Wolverine's claws is going to loss the majority.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not really.Flint and steel make sparks without much force.
Who's to say Adamantium and OrganicSteel don't effect each other the same way?
Me. 😐.
Riptide's shurikens were made out of adamantium, weren't they? The first time the two met, Colossus was penetrated without sparks. The second time, Colossus was totally unphased (and unpenetrated) without sparks.
Originally posted by srankmissingninAm I the only one who equates that feat, as Wolverine only being able to scrape away at Colossus?
Anyone that lakes a) a significant speed advantage, b) invulnerability/a healing factor or c) flight/ranged capabilities, will lose the majority to Wolverine.Some one roughly the same speed or slower, who has no option but melee and who is vulnerable to Wolverine's claws is going to loss the majority.
Also, it seems that Colossus is easily able to land his mitts on Wolverine.
And that, even after he got sliced/scrape/mind raped, he was still able to whip Wolvey into a pillar.
Also, so, if someone was a Galactus level (no invunerability), but was the same speed as Wolverine, he would lose the majority to him?
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Originally posted by Soljer
Me. 😐.
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Originally posted by Soljer
Riptide's shurikens were made out of adamantium, weren't they? The first time the two met, Colossus was penetrated without sparks. The second time, Colossus was totally unphased (and unpenetrated) without sparks.
Well that sure helps in the debate about Adamantium vs OrganicSteel 😛
Originally posted by Soljer
Me. 😐.Riptide's shurikens were made out of adamantium, weren't they? The first time the two met, Colossus was penetrated without sparks. The second time, Colossus was totally unphased (and unpenetrated) without sparks.
It was never mentioned what his shuriken were made out of... at least not during Mutant Massacre.
Originally posted by Soljer
I, myself, didn't recall. I thought I'd heard on the forums that they were referenced to as adamantium.Meh.
I think that if he had adamantium weaponry it would be mentioned enough that there would be no doubt in anyones mind whether it was or not... That seems always be the case with adamantium things; a character who has it needs to boast about having it whenever they are on panel.
Originally posted by Soljer
Riptide's shurikens were made out of adamantium, weren't they? The first time the two met, Colossus was penetrated without sparks. The second time, Colossus was totally unphased (and unpenetrated) without sparks.
2) The first time they met Colossus was so badly injured from Riptide's attack he would have died without the help of Magneto.
3) Riptide's BONE shuriken's barely penetrated Colossus' organic steel skin and were deep enough to cause enough leakage of bio-energy to put Colossus out of commission.
As far as the whole scratch, glancing blow, blah blah blah, whatever business is concerned, we have to remember that in 1982 Wolverine's claws still had no EDGE. They were great big knitting needles with points. If Wolverine raked Colossus' chest and just scored his armor, thats exactly what should have happened. Had he plunged straight in with a thrust Colossus would have been impaled. Look here at the impression Wolvie's claws make in this circuit board. They are clearly dull on the spine and underside of the claws.
It wasn't until after the Wolverine mini-series in 1984 that his claws started being drawn as blades (Frank Miller) instead of needles.
Bottom line is Colossus is not adamantium, Wolverine is officially stated as being able to cut any substance save adamantium. Not hard to understand. Strength has nothing to do with it. It all claw edge. Dont like the physics? It's a friggin comicbook and suprise, Wolverine is a lot stronger than most of you like to believe anyway. If Deathbird can shove a steel javelin through that armor Wolverine should have no trouble with his claws.
Originally posted by WorldWarHulkColossus' biceps aren't 12 inches thick, therefor yes they could come off in 1 swipe. Honestly Wolverine cuts through the strongest unbreakable steel alloys "like he's cutting air." How much stronger do you people think Colossus is than Omnium Steel? For the record Wolverine also cuts that like it's not even there. He cuts all forms of steel with NO RESISTANCE. He wouldn't even have to throw his weight behind a slash to do major crippling damage to Colossus. To my knowledge Colossus' strength is a direct result of and proportional to his armor. And Wolverine has cut through objects with EASE that Colossus couldn't damage with his hardest shot. Wolverine has cut through objects with no effort that Immortal Hercules didn't have a prayer of breaking.
Like, he wouldn't be able to slice his arm off in one shot, etc...
Originally posted by WorldWarHulkThing, Hulk, Wendigo, Namor, etc have all laid hands on Wolverine and suffered a defeat anyway. Colossus is no different. Wolverine has SMILED after taking hits from Colossus. SMILED. Not that Colossus cant hurt him, but Wolverine's strikes are going to hurt Colossus a lot more than what he lands on Wolverine.
Also, it seems that Colossus is easily able to land his mitts on Wolverine.
All of you that say Wolverine can't cut Colossus are flat out wrong. None of you have any proof to back up your claims. The fact that Wolverine has said point blank, "I'll cut you like butter." and Colossus is scared of the claws should be a big clue. The claw have come into Colossus 1 time. And that 1 time resulted in damage to the armor from a glancing blow, which Claremont elaborated by saying Organic Steel is no match for adamanium claws.
Honestly Wolverine has cut every big name brick there is in Marvel, including IC Thanos and King Thor. When did Colossus' steel armor become an equal to adamantium??? Because I've never read that.
Bone claws Wolverine has cut Hercules and beat him in Contest of Champions. Imagine what an adamantium upgrade and unlimited sharpening would do to Colossus.
Originally posted by riceroost
1) Where did you hear that? As far as I am aware Riptide's projectiles are made out of some kind of calcified bone secretions . Hardly adamanium.2) The first time they met Colossus was so badly injured from Riptide's attack he would have died without the help of Magneto.
3) Riptide's BONE shuriken's barely penetrated Colossus' organic steel skin and were deep enough to cause enough leakage of bio-energy to put Colossus out of commission.
As far as the whole scratch, glancing blow, blah blah blah, whatever business is concerned, we have to remember that in 1982 Wolverine's claws still had no EDGE. They were great big knitting needles with points. If Wolverine raked Colossus' chest and just scored his armor, thats exactly what should have happened. Had he plunged straight in with a thrust Colossus would have been impaled. Look here at the impression Wolvie's claws make in this circuit board. They are clearly dull on the spine and underside of the claws.
It wasn't until after the Wolverine mini-series in 1984 that his claws started being drawn as blades (Frank Miller) instead of needles.
Bottom line is Colossus is not adamantium, Wolverine is officially stated as being able to cut any substance save adamantium. Not hard to understand. Strength has nothing to do with it. It all claw edge. Dont like the physics? It's a friggin comicbook and suprise, Wolverine is a lot stronger than most of you like to believe anyway. If Deathbird can shove a steel javelin through that armor Wolverine should have no trouble with his claws.
Colossus' biceps aren't 12 inches thick, therefor yes they could come off in 1 swipe. Honestly Wolverine cuts through the strongest unbreakable steel alloys "like he's cutting air." How much stronger do you people think Colossus is than Omnium Steel? For the record Wolverine also cuts that like it's not even there. He cuts all forms of steel with NO RESISTANCE. He wouldn't even have to throw his weight behind a slash to do major crippling damage to Colossus. To my knowledge Colossus' strength is a direct result of and proportional to his armor. And Wolverine has cut through objects with EASE that Colossus couldn't damage with his hardest shot. Wolverine has cut through objects with no effort that Immortal Hercules didn't have a prayer of breaking.
Thing, Hulk, Wendigo, Namor, etc have all laid hands on Wolverine and suffered a defeat anyway. Colossus is no different. Wolverine has SMILED after taking hits from Colossus. SMILED. Not that Colossus cant hurt him, but Wolverine's strikes are going to hurt Colossus a lot more than what he lands on Wolverine.All of you that say Wolverine can't cut Colossus are flat out wrong. None of you have any proof to back up your claims. The fact that Wolverine has said point blank, "I'll cut you like butter." and Colossus is scared of the claws should be a big clue. The claw have come into Colossus 1 time. And that 1 time resulted in damage to the armor from a glancing blow, which Claremont elaborated by saying Organic Steel is no match for adamanium claws.
Honestly Wolverine has cut every big name brick there is in Marvel, including IC Thanos and King Thor. When did Colossus' steel armor become an equal to adamantium??? Because I've never read that.
Bone claws Wolverine has cut Hercules and beat him in Contest of Champions. Imagine what an adamantium upgrade and unlimited sharpening would do to Colossus.
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