Superman (DC) vs Horus (40k)

Since were on topic, anyone recommend a good 40k book? been looking for one.

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who is the DC character that KINDA looks like this
but his skin is like blueish, and he has a star on his chest almost identical to that one.
i forge this name, what is it?
( i realize that is genis but the guy im thinking of i cant rmemebr his name)

or does genis have an incarnation where hes light blueish? hah

i wonder. Is it genis?
i just realized i basicly descried genis. lol

well is their anyone ELSE that also has that star on thier chest?

A squad of Grey Knights would take him out as well, combined with their psychic abilities and their amour that would put Iron Man and Dr. Doom to shame and to top it off all the magic runes.

A squad of Grey Knights would take him out as well, combined with their psychic abilities and their amour that would put Iron Man and Dr. Doom to shame and to top it off all the magic runes.

Superman does have impressive psy resistance. Also seeing as a Las cannon can drop them in one shot, heat vision will make short work of them.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Superman does have impressive psy resistance. Also seeing as a Las cannon can drop them in one shot, heat vision will make short work of them.

Many of their weapons are not based on strength or durability of their enemy and hurt them no matter how strong or tuff they are.

The Emperor also froze time once

Anybody that thinks Supes can resist the psy stuff in 40K is sadly mistaken. The stuff they deal with, level of powers, access to warp enhancement and entities, technology... good God. Plus, all kinds of time game stuff, plague-play. Weapons that use darkness, empty voids, portals, gravity. Weapons that will literally knock the sould right out of you.
It aint like the sissified DC U or Marvel U.
Its 40K, man! And...

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is ONLY war.

Hehe.
And, There are tons of characters and armor types that can stand up to Las Cannon. It has taken orbital strike Plasma-Battery fire a half-mile wide to temporarily kill a Great Unclean One.
This ain't no place for pretty uniforms and shiny spandex.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Since were on topic, anyone recommend a good 40k book? been looking for one.

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who is the DC character that KINDA looks like this
but his skin is like blueish, and he has a star on his chest almost identical to that one.
i forge this name, what is it?
( i realize that is genis but the guy im thinking of i cant rmemebr his name)

or does genis have an incarnation where hes light blueish? hah

i wonder. Is it genis?
i just realized i basicly descried genis. lol

well is their anyone ELSE that also has that star on thier chest?

I think you are referring to Captain Atom, or maybe even Major Force.
Both bad as hell.

And, I just got done reading the second book of the Horus Heresy trilogy.
Incredible read.
The Last Chancers books are great too.
But, my favorite are the ones dealing with Eisenhorn and other Inquisitors. The Eisenhorn books are awesome.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I think you are referring to Captain Atom, or maybe even Major Force.
Both bad as hell.

And, I just got done reading the second book of the Horus Heresy trilogy.
Incredible read.
The Last Chancers books are great too.
But, my favorite are the ones dealing with Eisenhorn and other Inquisitors. The Eisenhorn books are awesome.

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double answer
thankyou, very very, very much

I’m finishing up Executioners Song and about to start Realm of Chaos.

*I'm suprised not more sup fansboys haven't said anything more*

I was thinking of reading Realm of Chaos.

Although their not 40k My favourite was always the Konrad trilogy.

Well a Las cannon doesn’t easily drop them or not at all, maybe a terminator but not a Grey Night

Yes it does. Grey Knight terminators have exactly the same physical stats as normal terminators. A las cannon shot or two will drop them.

combined with their runes and top level psychic abilities that are on par or above with Professor X and Jean Grey he couldn’t stand up to them

Are we aloud to just make stuff up now? I've read the Grey Knight novel and played the game for three years. They don't have any psychic abilities of that level. Even Inquisitors like Eisenhorn are low level.

The also have massive magic and runes and could simple drop him in the Void and then that’s all she wrote, and to take care of the Speed Blitz they have runes that make them go first no matter how fast the opponent.

I have the codex on me and they don't have any of those abilities. Most daemon hunter abilties focus on fighting daemons and psykers not Kryptonians.

Back to the argument at hand. Superman is stronger and faster than Horus by a large degree. Horus has high level psychic powers which can drop Superman. Whoever goes first will win. Given Supermans faster reflexes he takes the majority. Supes 7/10

It has been about 10 years or so since I’ve played the game and they have made some changes it seems. When the Grey Knights first came out they were all 5 level psykers, though their physical stats were the same as any other terminator they all hade protective runes, magic and use daemon like weapons. They may have changed this rule as well but what ever damage was done to them it hade like a 20% chance of doing nothing, meaning you rolled to 6 sided dice and if you got a 6 then all damage was negated no matter what the cause.

In the Warhammer Fantasy Role play game the go into greater detail about the level of demon abilities and their powers/mutations. Many of the spells that the used were also used as psychic abilities in 40K. In the first set they had runes that would allow them to go first, open up holes to the Void or what ever. Demons could only be hurt by magic or psychic attack.

Demon weapons such as the axe of Khorne will always hit and always kill or will any other daemon weapon that has a greater demon bound to it.

Supes gets sent to the warp.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Back to the argument at hand. Superman is stronger and faster than Horus by a large degree. Horus has high level psychic powers which can drop Superman. Whoever goes first will win. Given Supermans faster reflexes he takes the majority. Supes 7/10

Demon weapons such as the axe of Khorne will always hit and always kill or will any other daemon weapon that has a greater demon bound to it.

To my Knowledge only Abbadon's sword has that ability within current 40K rules. various Daemon wepons have different effects now.

Demons could only be hurt by magic or psychic attack.

Also changed. It's entirely possible to destroy a daemon using normal weapons.

Abaddon's sword is Drach'nyen - Remember it.
Ehh . . . What's the rules of the weapon?

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
To my Knowledge only Abbadon's sword has that ability within current 40K rules. various Daemon wepons have different effects now.

Also changed. It's entirely possible to destroy a daemon using normal weapons.

Abaddon's sword is Drach'nyen

I know but damned if I was going to try and spell it.

Ehh . . . What's the rules of the weapon?

I havn't played for over a year. But as I remember it auto wounds and auto kills. It ignores armour saves but not invulnerable ones. He's a real pain to fight he he had a good chance of dropping my tricked out blood angels commander.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Although their not 40k My favourite was always the Konrad trilogy.

Yes it does. Grey Knight terminators have exactly the same physical stats as normal terminators. A las cannon shot or two will drop them.

Are we aloud to just make stuff up now? I've read the Grey Knight novel and played the game for three years. They don't have any psychic abilities of that level. Even Inquisitors like Eisenhorn are low level.

I have the codex on me and they don't have any of those abilities. Most daemon hunter abilties focus on fighting daemons and psykers not Kryptonians.

Back to the argument at hand. Superman is stronger and faster than Horus by a large degree. Horus has high level psychic powers which can drop Superman. Whoever goes first will win. Given Supermans faster reflexes he takes the majority. Supes 7/10

First of all, I wasn't just talking about the Imperium. I was talking about all the armies. And, yes, some of them do dwarf Professor X and Jean Grey. Plus, unlike in the MU, the guys go through a lifetime of testing among tons of different areas, in an establishment that has been doing it for 30 some thousand years. Then, they get hundreds of years of experience.
Eisenhorn is not nearly in the league of the "most powerful". I never said he was.
And, that is not even talking about the Eldar, the Chaos Champions, Greater Demons etc. And, I wasn't just talking about the Demon Hunter army. That is just one.
Grey Knights have special saves that "regulars" don't have.
Played for 3 years huh? Wow. Ever hear of the Void Cannon? Eldar. Gravitic Weapons? Squats, soon to be the Demiurge. And, don't even get me started with the ways to banish people into the Warp through portals and stuff.

Demons can be hit with regular stuff, but they have second, invulnerable saves.
Thats not even talking about the bigger, badder demons.