Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um NO. Just No. Who do you think galactus is? The Antimonitor or the Beyonder or Somebody? Just stop it. No. Just NO. Mr. Mxy is more powerful than Galactus.
I believe the debate started when I compared the power of a full power celestial to mr. mxy.
why? I'll tell you. Celestials aren't just tall guys in armored suits. They are universal level reality warpers. Franklin richards with just a fraction of their power created a universe out of nothing. a Full power celestial can create and annihilate universes with a thought. They're like super cube beings.
Yes I have read emperor joker. Cube beings should be able to accomplish the same feats, and celestials are WAY more powerful.
The ONLY beings more powerful than them are the abstracts, who have no real limit to what they can do.
And Kismet is not "more powerful than eternity" since eternity doesn't have a limit to it's power. All showings of abstracts are just M-bodies with a portion of it's actual power.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
I believe the debate started when I compared the power of a full power celestial to mr. mxy.why? I'll tell you. Celestials aren't just tall guys in armored suits. They are universal level reality warpers. Franklin richards with just a fraction of their power created a universe out of nothing. a Full power celestial can create and annihilate universes with a thought. They're like super cube beings.
Yes I have read emperor joker. Cube beings should be able to accomplish the same feats, and celestials are WAY more powerful.
The ONLY beings more powerful than them are the abstracts, who have no real limit to what they can do.
And Kismet is not "more powerful than eternity" since eternity doesn't have a limit to it's power. All showings of abstracts are just M-bodies with a portion of it's actual power.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
I believe the debate started when I compared the power of a full power celestial to mr. mxy.why? I'll tell you. Celestials aren't just tall guys in armored suits. They are universal level reality warpers. Franklin richards with just a fraction of their power created a universe out of nothing. a Full power celestial can create and annihilate universes with a thought. They're like super cube beings.
Yes I have read emperor joker. Cube beings should be able to accomplish the same feats, and celestials are WAY more powerful.
The ONLY beings more powerful than them are the abstracts, who have no real limit to what they can do.
And Kismet is not "more powerful than eternity" since eternity doesn't have a limit to it's power. All showings of abstracts are just M-bodies with a portion of it's actual power.
I think you under Estimate Mr. Mxy. And over estimate cube beings. IT takes a myriad of them to accomplish universal feats. and it also takes time. Mxy can do Universe altering things in a snap of a finger.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
if eternity has no limit to his power than why is it that thanos with hotu has beaten him?
Ignoring the fact that "The end" may or not be canon- the HOTU is the power of the creator. It supercedes the power of everything else INCLUDING the tribunal, who's word is law within marvel.
Eternity, Death, Infinity etc don't have set power levels. There isn't a predefined limit to what they can or can't do. Their abilities are essentially infinite within their respective domains.
I think you under Estimate Mr. Mxy. And over estimate cube beings. IT takes a myriad of them to accomplish universal feats. and it also takes time. Mxy can do Universe altering things in a snap of a finger.
The time for a cube being to alter reality is negligible. and celestials FAR EXCEED the abilities of cube beings. Both have been shown to create universes on their own at a whim, so obviously "universe altering" feats (when they're creating their own universes) are clearly within their powerset.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Ignoring the fact that "The end" may or not be canon- the HOTU is the power of the creator. It supercedes the power of everything else INCLUDING the tribunal, who's word is law within marvel.Eternity, Death, Infinity etc don't have set power levels. There isn't a predefined limit to what they can or can't do. Their abilities are essentially infinite within their respective domains.
The time for a cube being to alter reality is negligible. and celestials FAR EXCEED the abilities of cube beings. Both have been shown to create universes on their own at a whim, so obviously "universe altering" feats (when they're creating their own universes) are clearly within their powerset.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Yes, I DID say that, because he is. Mostly because of the nullifier which is an aspect of him.The nullifier can eliminate and restructure ALL of marvel, not just 616, at once. As it's an aspect of him, it's part of his powerset.
Galactus is also not restricted to one universe. He can traverse any and all dimensions at will, and has enough power to destroy the universe 10x over.
Galactus is not a multiversal being. The fact that there is a Galactus in every reality is proof of that.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
yeah abstarcts has no limit to their powers than why did beyonder punked them?
Becuz they actually did have no limit to thier powers. (at least in relation to the beyonder)They fooled the shit out of the beyonder. They put him in a deep sleep and he dreamed the whole thing. Hell I can be the beyonder in my dreams too. lol. NO one has infinite power but The Gods of thier universes. TOAA and the Presence.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
yeah abstarcts has no limit to their powers than why did beyonder punked them?
It's obvious you don't read marvel, or you'd know that the beyonder DIDNT. All the events of secret wars were retconned into an illusion of the abstracts "testing" the beyonder.
In reality, the beyonder only possessed the power of one half of a cosmic cube- he was an incomplete cube being, with the molecule man being the other half.
As for the Kismet/Eternity thing: The 616 Eternity is just an aspect of the true, multiversal eternity. There is indeed a multi-eternity/multi infinity that represents all of marvel.
How would you define a multiversal being? If you're defining it as a being with the power/ability to traverse and affect more than one dimension/reality, Galactus fits this definition. If there's another one you're using, I'd like to hear it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Becuz they actually did have no limit to thier powers. (at least in relation to the beyonder)They fooled the shit out of the beyonder. They put him in a deep sleep and he dreamed the whole thing. Hell I can be the beyonder in my dreams too. lol. NO one has infinite power but The Gods of thier universes. TOAA and the Presence.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
It's obvious you don't read marvel, or you'd know that the beyonder DIDNT. All the events of secret wars were retconned into an illusion of the abstracts "testing" the beyonder.In reality, the beyonder only possessed the power of one half of a cosmic cube- he was an incomplete cube being, with the molecule man being the other half.
As for the Kismet/Eternity thing: The 616 Eternity is just an aspect of the true, multiversal eternity. There is indeed a multi-eternity/multi infinity that represents all of marvel.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
i read marvel i no he was retconned to cosmic cube level im just talking about that no one has infinite power only toaa and presence
I didn't say the abstracts had infinite and unlimited power in all areas. I SAID there were no pre defined limits to what they can or can't do. All of their showings are done via M-bodies, which have only a fraction of the power of the "true" abstract.
Say for instance that Colossus can lift 80 tons, Quicksilver can go mach 5 or whatever...those are limits. The abstracts have no real limit to how fast they are, how strong they are, or even what their powers can do. They're left undefined, with exactly as much power as the writer wishes them to have.
Originally posted by Inhuman
😂infinity gauntlet>Incomplete infinity gauntlet>ultimate nulifier=Mr.myx
NOw back it up. Not just with scans of Marvel. But back it up with scans of Mxy that show his limits. Cuz saying it and proving it are another. You can prove the power of marvel well. Now disprove Mxy's power.
The Celestials are powerful indeed, they are more powerful than evolved Cosmic Containment Units (Cosmic Cubes)
but NOT more powerful than even ONE UN-Evolved Cosmic Containment Unit, which can make you God (Thanos).
The Celestials CAN'T destroy Universes, I don't know where that came from. 😕
And Franklyn ONLY Created Pocket Universes, NEVER a Universe.
Exitar's only FEAT (Thor #389) is small fries in comparison with other Cosmics, heck the Black Celestial has better showings.
So...
If this is non-canon Mxy, Mxy erases their whole Universe.
If it's canon Mxy, ALL the Celestials as a Unit, win.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlThat's not half as bad as some as the things you said.
Um NO. Just No. Who do you think galactus is? The Antimonitor or the Beyonder or Somebody? Just stop it. No. Just NO. Mr. Mxy is more powerful than Galactus.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlHe didn't destroy Eternity. Eternity can fight back, universes cannot.
He is an Idiot. Parralax rewrote multiple universes at one time. He was reaching into pocket dimensions as well as alternate timelines. IT was DC's First attemt to fix the infinite universe mess. Galactus is equal to Eternity at full power. Which has never been shown. Parallax killed Multi ETERNITY's. Please tell this guy he needs to get off of Galactus's Tip.