Originally posted by Chiki Mina
^^^^excellent pointi dont think jack will settle down completely. he coud sail on the sea for a bit then come back to a home with liz lool
maybe they could build a house where they were marooned!! in that tiny island!!
Ahhh, I've had this thought many times. IT is true - a clue we ignore - the world of pirace is coming to an end, thus Jack Sparrow must find a place in the new world, or perish...I would rather see Jack give up piracy than perish...the director/producer/writers have said that we are witnessing an end of an era....
I would love to see Jack still be captain of a ship...because ships are used long after the age of piracy.....and that Liz and he could live in a house on the island they were marooned on together..when not sailing the seas....now that would be the life....
I'm not a big fan of Will's because I love Jack so much, but I must say that all the points made on this thread are very true. If not for Will, Jack would not even be alive....Norrie would have had Jack hung...but Elizabeth also plays a part in this, remember before Will even starts his antics...she says "This is wrong" and then she faints to distract Norrie and her father....
But on the other hand, half the messes they get caught up in would have never happend if Will could have just trusted Jack and not done all those stupid bloody things he did....
and why doesn't Will trust Jack...because Will does not like Pirates..he hates Pirates...he saves Jack in the end of POTC because he realizes Jack is a good man...
remember Will practiced three hours a day with his swords so that when he meets a Pirate he can KILL IT>
Then he is terribly upset and in denial when jack tells him that he is a pirate...that his father was a pirate....
Then he is also upset when he learns that Liz took the medallion from him proving that he indeed has Pirate blood in him...but just because someone has pirate blood in them, doesnt necessarily make him a pirate...then in movie 2....we learn his Father doens't want Will to end up a pirate and Will promises to free his father from the pirate life...
will doesn't think of Jack as a friend...remember he tells Beckett "more like acquaintance than friend...."
and now that he has seen Jack and Liz kissing...uhgg...he is really going to dislike Pirates...
I think Will is going to join up with Beckett and help him to defeat the Pirates and then free his father from Davy Jones' clutches....using the heart to command it....(just as Jack suggests one can do with the heart if you have it in your possession)
I'm not so sure Will is even going to be in love with Liz any more once he finds out just how much of a Pirate she has become....
I guess only time will tell.
i dont think its fair to say Will is cocky about Elizabeth... Will is ANYTHING but cocky about her---- he seems to be very certain he doesn't deserve her, he cant believe she picked him, and he is NOT surprised to see her going after another guy...
he's just a poor idiot in love.
he really does love Elizabeth, and that's sweet. I really dont think he is cocky about her at all.
but his emotions are involved. its so hard to see things clearly when you are in love.
and he is unswervingly loyal to people who are close to him... Elizabeth, his father... ya know? don't blame him for that.
and I dont like to think Jack won't be a pirate anymore. that's like, who he is. If its a choice between settling down with Liz and remaining a Pirate, I would rather him remain a pirate.
I just think both him and Liz should be pirates together. Piracy eventually has to end, but Jack and Liz could probably keep the dream alive for a long time. They could evade the law and do their own thing.
Originally posted by katelovespirate
i dont think its fair to say Will is cocky about Elizabeth... Will is ANYTHING but cocky about her---- he seems to be very certain he doesn't deserve her, he cant believe she picked him, and he is NOT surprised to see her going after another guy...he's just a poor idiot in love.
he really does love Elizabeth, and that's sweet. I really dont think he is cocky about her at all.
but his emotions are involved. its so hard to see things clearly when you are in love.
and he is unswervingly loyal to people who are close to him... Elizabeth, his father... ya know? don't blame him for that.
and I dont like to think Jack won't be a pirate anymore. that's like, who he is. If its a choice between settling down with Liz and remaining a Pirate, I would rather him remain a pirate.
I just think both him and Liz should be pirates together. Piracy eventually has to end, but Jack and Liz could probably keep the dream alive for a long time. They could evade the law and do their own thing.
I love Jack as a pirate too...I'm just wondering what is meant when they say we are witnessing the end of an era...maybe, it's the end of the EITC....maybe...since it's a movie...any many things in this movie doesn't necessarily correlate with real history..maybe they'll have the pirates defeat the EITC....and Jack is victorious and the realm of piracy continues...but the good pirate...not the nasty pirates that rape, pillage and plunder....also, Kate....trying to find the post where someone said Will was cocky when it comes to Elizabeth..who said that. Because Will I don't think is cocky...he, in fact in POTC 1, is very unsure of himself and LIz
Will is unsure if he should elizabeth go, and watch him run off the famous jack sparrow(i believe he'll think this way in a jelous way)
or fight for the relationship.
i personally at worlds end could mean the end of war between pirates and the EITC ppl.
they have been in war for a loong time but i believe its the end of the war
I'm concerned because Will has shown some passive tendencies--- especially where Elizabeth is concerned--- and I would like him to stay and fight for the relationship like an honorable man (and, if he must lose her, at least go down with a fight) rather than just disappear and assume she has stopped loving him without even approaching her about it, or fighting for her. Thats one thing I would like to see change about Will. Jack is so ACTIVE in pursueing Elizabeth, and he gets rewarded for it. I wish Will would be more active about pursueing her.
I think that, historically speaking, this show down ought to end with casualties on both sides, and both groups giving up certain concessions... Like, EITC conceding certain ports to the pirates, while the pirates agree to leave certain places alone.
HOWEVER, going along with the romantic, idealistic, disney-ish pirate image and story these movies ACTUALLY represent, i dont think this will happen! I think we will see the pirates emerge victorious, even if they lose some battles along the way.
Not that I think the pirates will control the oceans or anything, but I DO think the Pirates will remain banded together in order to continue to fight EITC injustice--- sort of an Underground Railroad idea, Pirate style. I think the theme of slavery/freedom will come out more, as we learn more about Jack's past, and be a big issue in 3.
i don't think she deserves any of them..i mean look at what she has done to all three
was going to marry norrigton then slapped him emotionally in the face with that boy toy who actually..sin't much of one..
A Technacality is that [she] cheated on will with jack sparrow (sort of)
Condemned Jack Sparrow to deah
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are they going to forgive her?
know..who is she going to get now..mr.gibbs?