marka ragnos vs DE sidious

He knew every single technique ever invented, plus his own techniques, which was described as being better than ANY ever before....

Yeah, I'd like a list of those though.

But, Im not sure Lightsnake can provide such a list...

No, he can't.

Oh well. 👿

Something tells me I don't need to: We know the fallanassi abilities and we know Sidious knows them. So, game set match.

Heh, Oh, I think you do.

If you can't even show me a list of his specific powers in the Force by DE...

Heh, come on Lightsnake, this is a challenge.

Ok, here's a list:
Everything known
Everything unknown
Everything he made.

I need a list now? Is canon saying he knows everything not enough? Sorry, but your argument just collapses.

Heh, relax.

I just need you to produce a list, of at least 10 of the most powerful/unusual abilities Sidious has, specifically.

If you can't do that though, thats alright. 😎

Erm....why should I have to? It's CANON that he knows everything, but if you insist
Force drain
Force lightning
Force Lightning
Force Crush
Malacia
Morichro
Mechu-Deru
Ability to kill someone by anger alone
Spear of Midnight Black
Torture by Chagrin
Force Grip

Mechu-Deru - what is this?

Ability to kill someone by anger alone - is this the specific name of the ability?

Spear of Midnight Black - what is this?

Torture by Chagrin - what is this?

Mechu Deru: Ability to alchemically infuse organics to technobeasts

Ability to kill someone by anger alone: Unnamed aility. Invented by Palpatine

Spear of Midnight black: Forming a weapon out of the darkside-the spear is metaphorical- and 'hurling' it at an enemy.

Torture by Chagrin- Destroying one mentaly by forcing their worst memories on them

Hmm, wow. Well, I guess DE Sidious could beat Ragnos...
Mabye.

But what powers did Ragnos know?

We don't know in every case what someone knew, there aren't published lists

Originally posted by Lightsnake
We don't know in every case what someone knew, there aren't published lists

Ahh...

Well, thanks for the lists in any case...

ok since we dunno what ragnos could do sidious wins then
. whatabout his scepter? couldnt it blast sidious away at point blank range?

It hardly slowed Kyle Katan down and that a mostly full power blast

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Erm....why should I have to? It's CANON that he knows everything, but if you insist
Force drain
Force lightning
Force Lightning
Force Crush
Malacia
Morichro
Mechu-Deru
Ability to kill someone by anger alone
Spear of Midnight Black
Torture by Chagrin
Force Grip

One of the "Force lightings" should be "Force Storm" I assume.

slowed kyle down? yea it did but couldnt ragnos use it to drain the force? note though its different from nihilus and palpatines force drain it takes a long time, by then hed be dead

Can it be used to drain an individual? When Tavion tried them on Kyle, the beam had to hit him and it wasn't exactly instant death.