Federal Government vs. State Government

I'm starting to have a real problem with our Federal government. Anyone else feel this way....They seem to override many state legislations. Even seems to use bribes as one I have just heard of. The State of Michigan had a law in place, but the Federal government wanted to change it. Michigan said NO, so, the Federal government said, then we will not give you the billions that we were giving you for roads. I have heard many such stories of States legislation being over ridden by the Feds. Shouldn't states have their autonomy?

Any other stories that anyone wants to share?

Originally posted by debbiejo
I'm starting to have a real problem with our Federal government. Anyone else feel this way....They seem to override many state legislations. Even seems to use bribes as one I have just heard of. The State of Michigan had a law in place, but the Federal government wanted to change it. Michigan said NO, so, the Federal government said, then we will not give you the billions that we were giving you for roads. I have heard many such stories of States legislation being over ridden by the Feds. Shouldn't states have their autonomy?

Any other stories that anyone wants to share?

You suck, I feel you.

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I know you own a dog, maybe you're confused........They don't called them "mans best friend for nothing"...........LOL

Originally posted by debbiejo
I'm starting to have a real problem with our Federal government. Anyone else feel this way....They seem to override many state legislations. Even seems to use bribes as one I have just heard of. The State of Michigan had a law in place, but the Federal government wanted to change it. Michigan said NO, so, the Federal government said, then we will not give you the billions that we were giving you for roads. I have heard many such stories of States legislation being over ridden by the Feds. Shouldn't states have their autonomy?

Any other stories that anyone wants to share?

In Australia it is much clear cut. Federal laws override State laws in the areas the the Feral Government has the top authority.

When Australia federated our constitution left the state with some residual powers, to make it easier for governing - things like roads, hospitals etc. Thus they make decisions on those. The federal government deals with things on a nation wide basis.

If the state makes a law that clashes with the Federal Government, then the Federal Governments law automatically overrides it, unless the State can take the matter to the High Court and prove it is allowed. There is no bribing or strong arm tactics - it is all laid down what the state is allowed to do, and what the Federal government is allowed to do.

You suck, I feel you.

Maybe you should try to contribute to the topic, instead of whatever it is you are doing.

This has been going on for years. Witholding federal highway funds if the states didn't raise the drinking age to 21, and lower the the legal intoxication limit to .08 are just two examples. It even tries this on foreign countries. Last year The US offered Brazil $10 billion for AIDS research on the condition it made prostitution, which is legal in Brazil, illegal. Brazil refused.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
This has been going on for years. Witholding federal highway funds if the states didn't raise the drinking age to 21, and lower the the legal intoxication limit to .08 are just two examples. It even tries this on foreign countries. Last year The US offered Brazil $10 billion for AIDS research on the condition it made prostitution, which is legal in Brazil, illegal. Brazil refused.

Seems reminiscent to all the "trading" that went on prior to the Iraq war - in order to make nations more conducive to the idea Iraq should be dealt with. Of course it only works on nations that are in desperate need of things. Which was why so many small nations with virtually no armies at all were 100% behind the coalition of the willing.

I guess the federal government is not respecting the 10 Amendment.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
This has been going on for years. Witholding federal highway funds if the states didn't raise the drinking age to 21, and lower the the legal intoxication limit to .08 are just two examples. It even tries this on foreign countries. Last year The US offered Brazil $10 billion for AIDS research on the condition it made prostitution, which is legal in Brazil, illegal. Brazil refused.

Originally posted by Kinneary
And where's the problem with that? You can have our money if you do what we want. Brazil isn't entitled to anything.

Well, arguably, it is not the nicest thing. "Sure, you can have money to fight AIDs... if you toe our moral line. If not, well, you can just watch them die with us."

Imagine you are in the middle of no where, dying of thirst, and some guy comes up to you and asks you to do something that isn't really in your best interests in return for a bottle of water.

By that logic, the US is obligated to give money to everyone for AIDS, cancer, and whatever else is going on. The US tax dollar is not for everyone in the world. I feel absolutely no obligation to freely give out billions of dollars to governments around the world. That might be 'mean' but simply, it's not the US's job to take care of the world.

Originally posted by Kinneary
And where's the problem with that? You can have our money if you do what we want. Brazil isn't entitled to anything.

I agree, and Brazil told the US to %^*& off, something they are also entitled to do. I however fail to see why the US cares about legal prostitution in Brazil. It isn't like Brazil is a major source of oil.

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Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
I agree, and Brazil told the US to %^*& off, something they are also entitled to do. I however fail to see why the US cares about legal prostitution in Brazil. It isn't like Brazil is a major source of oil.

Sexually transmitted disease, prostitution................

Originally posted by debbiejo
I'm starting to have a real problem with our Federal government. Anyone else feel this way....They seem to override many state legislations. Even seems to use bribes as one I have just heard of. The State of Michigan had a law in place, but the Federal government wanted to change it. Michigan said NO, so, the Federal government said, then we will not give you the billions that we were giving you for roads. I have heard many such stories of States legislation being over ridden by the Feds. Shouldn't states have their autonomy?

Any other stories that anyone wants to share?

Isn't that extortion, not bribery?

I'm not sure.

This has been going on for years. Witholding federal highway funds if the states didn't raise the drinking age to 21, and lower the the legal intoxication limit to .08 are just two examples. It even tries this on foreign countries. Last year The US offered Brazil $10 billion for AIDS research on the condition it made prostitution, which is legal in Brazil, illegal. Brazil refused.

Federal Government should have the power over the State government anyway....

Originally posted by Soleran
Sexually transmitted disease, prostitution................

Shows how little you know. Just look at Costa Rica and rural Nevada Counties to show why prostitution not only can be but should be legal everywhere if regulated properly. But such discussion is off topic for this thread.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I'm starting to have a real problem with our Federal government. I have heard many such stories of States legislation being over ridden by the Feds. Shouldn't states have their autonomy?

Any other stories that anyone wants to share?

Yeah, the one where over 70% of states continually vote against gay marriage, yet activist judges just keep trying to pass it as law.

Or the one where people vote against unlimited abortion, but the federal government says it's perfectly legal.

This goes on everywhere, on both sides of the aisle.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
I agree, and Brazil told the US to %^*& off, something they are also entitled to do. I however fail to see why the US cares about legal prostitution in Brazil. It isn't like Brazil is a major source of oil.

But they could become a major source of ethanol 😉

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Shows how little you know. Just look at Costa Rica and rural Nevada Counties to show why prostitution not only can be but should be legal everywhere if regulated properly. But such discussion is off topic for this thread.

Great, so is it regulated in Brazil?

Maybe you should try to contribute to the topic, instead of whatever it is you are doing.

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