Originally posted by Big Sexy
Nooooooo john would get obliterated. Kyle is waay more powerful than John Stewart
I doubt that. IMO Hal > John > Kyle > Guy (Tho potential-wise Guy is actually the most powerful which he showed in Recharge.) John Stewart has actually beaten Hal in one-on-one confrontations before.
Originally posted by Genis101I always knew Hal was the strongest because of his will but I always thought kyle was second.
I doubt that. IMO Hal > John > Kyle > Guy (Tho potential-wise Guy is actually the most powerful which he showed in Recharge.) John Stewart has actually beaten Hal in one-on-one confrontations before.
Originally posted by Genis101lol John couldn't see supes movement........ his best willed construct couldn't hold Superman. 🙄
Superman. IMO the only standard GLs that can take a majority over Superman are Hal and John.
Any GL can beat Superman if they start using some of their powers they have shown rather than just basic construct.
Superman does have speed at his side.
In comic Superman can give any GL (and has) a good fight
Originally posted by Big Sexy
I always knew Hal was the strongest because of his will but I always thought kyle was second.
Nope. John is second. Then Kyle. Then Guy. But when Guy actually goes all out and actually takes it seriously, he's probly the most powerful, leaving Kyle last (other than Kilowog).
Originally posted by Genis101You count that? 😱
Nope, i dont even watch that. (Thats the show right?)And Kg thats called jobbing on John's part. If you wanna count jobbing, we can also count Wonder Man busting through Kyle's shields since JLA/Avengers is canon.
I guess you haven't seen Kyle fight Parallax?
Originally posted by bigbran
You count that? 😱I guess you haven't seen Kyle fight Parallax?
If you count John's jobbing to Superman, then i count Kyle's jobbing to Wonder Man. And whats wrong with counting JLA/Avengers as valid evidence? Both companies have referred to it on panel as canon evidence. And Kyle fighting Parallax was a good showing, and he didnt even do that well. I have scans of both fights. Neither one of them did he do anything impressive other than lasting a few pages. Either way, it's not something John could not have done.
Originally posted by Genis101
If you count John's jobbing to Superman, then i count Kyle's jobbing to Wonder Man. And whats wrong with counting JLA/Avengers as valid evidence? Both companies have referred to it on panel as canon evidence. And Kyle fighting Parallax was a good showing, and he didnt even do that well. I have scans of both fights. Neither one of them did he do anything impressive other than lasting a few pages. Either way, it's not something John could not have done.
They trashed Kyle like a newb.
WM pawnage , his energy getting jacked did I miss something?
and Superman has done feats of strength capable of breaking construct since it happens in regular basis
Originally posted by Genis101I haven't seen John do to many things, that would count that as jobbing.
If you count John's jobbing to Superman,
Originally posted by Genis101So your comparing a big bang to Wonder Man?
then i count Kyle's jobbing to Wonder Man.
Originally posted by Genis101Because the whole thing was pis! I bet you think that Storm would beat Wonder Woman!
And whats wrong with counting JLA/Avengers as valid evidence?
Originally posted by Genis101Not Marvel, please try again after the beap!
Both companies have referred to it on panel as canon evidence.
Originally posted by Genis101No, he didn't stand up to a major force that was able to fight Spectre. 🙄
And Kyle fighting Parallax was a good showing, and he didnt even do that well.
Originally posted by Genis101And this is bad?? 😆 I don't think you realize how powerful Parallax is/was.
I have scans of both fights. Neither one of them did he do anything impressive other than lasting a few pages.
Originally posted by Genis101
Either way, it's not something John could not have done.
Originally posted by bigbran
I haven't seen John do to many things, that would count that as jobbing.So your comparing a big bang to Wonder Man?
Because the whole thing was pis! I bet you think that Storm would beat Wonder Woman!
Not Marvel, please try again after the beap!
No, he didn't stand up to a major force that was able to fight Spectre. 🙄
And this is bad?? 😆 I don't think you realize how powerful Parallax is/was.
But you also think Classic Ion was below Galactus...Show me anything that would even remotely support what you have just said there.
Im not comparing Wondy to a big bang. Thats why im calling it jobbing. Cuz whether you like it or not, it still happened.
Storm beat Wonder Woman in DC vs MArvel. TOTALLY DIFFERENT. DC vs Marvel was not considered canon. JLA/Avengers was.
What did Classic Ion ever do that put him at Full Power Galactus level? Do you realize that at Full Power, Galactus = Eternity? So therefore, show me some evidence that shows that Classic Ion was more powerful than the Living Embodiment of the main Marvel Universe.
Anyways im goin to bed i got work tomorrow at 6 and it's already almost 2. Nite guys. Cya tomorrow
Originally posted by Genis101Then why bring it up?
Im not comparing Wondy to a big bang. Thats why im calling it jobbing. Cuz whether you like it or not, it still happened.
Originally posted by Genis101It wasn't canon to Marvel. Plus I'm pointing out how much shit crossovers are for your main arguements.
Storm beat Wonder Woman in DC vs MArvel. TOTALLY DIFFERENT. DC vs Marvel was not considered canon. JLA/Avengers was.
Originally posted by Genis101So does that mean that Ion, can rewrite Eternity?
What did Classic Ion ever do that put him at Full Power Galactus level? Do you realize that at Full Power, Galactus = Eternity? So therefore, show me some evidence that shows that Classic Ion was more powerful than the Living Embodiment of the main Marvel Universe.
Originally posted by Genis101Ya see ya.
Anyways im goin to bed i got work tomorrow at 6 and it's already almost 2. Nite guys. Cya tomorrow