23 Minutes In Hell (A True Story)

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Revelation 9 talks about demons coming out of the pit to torment people on earth. If they can torment people on earth why would it be difficult to believe that they could torment people in the pit (of Hell that is)?

Pretty sure that those people aren't saved.

Originally posted by FeceMan
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Originally posted by FeceMan
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Pretty sure that those people aren't saved.

Neither are people in Hell.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Neither are people in Hell.

Even "saved Christians" can be in hell from time to time.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Neither are people in Hell.

What's your point? The people in Revelations tormented by demons are those who aren't saved. Not Christians. This guy was having a hallucination that reminds me distinctly of those who believe they've been abducted by aliens.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is no basis for believing in invisible unicorns, but there is credible evidence for the existence of demons. Now, prove that demons do not exist.

Credible evidence? Such as?

Prove to me that demons do exist, JIA. For that matter, prove to me that Jehovah exists. Prove to me that Jesus existed. Prove to all of us that angels, and serphim, and Satan exist.

No links, please. ermm I want to hear an opinion that is yours, and not one that was written by someone else.

What JesusIsAlive likes to do is propose ideas and then demand that people prove "they don't exist" or else he's right... He should really know that the burden of proof is on him.

People can project their fears and really imagine them just as people project other thoughts and see them also. The mind is a powerful thing.

I can see someone's been reading Freud.

23 Minutes In Hell [reading this thread] (A True Story)

It took you 23 minutes, to read through four pages?

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Provide an example of a person who was possessed.

Robbie Doe. The movie "The Exorcist" was based on this 13 year-old boy's demon possession. However, instead of a boy the movie involves a girl who is demon possessed and the names of the exorcists were changed for sake of privacy.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Robbie Doe. The movie "The Exorcist" was based on this 13 year-old boy's demon possession. However, instead of a boy the movie involves a girl who is demon possessed and the names of the exorcists were changed for sake of privacy.

Can you provide official documentation or photos of the occurence?

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Can you provide official documentation or photos of the occurence?

You should do your own research and official documentation search.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There are NO real cases of demon possession. 100% of them of are caused by other factors like mental illness.

Research the demon possession of Robbie Doe. The movie "The Exorcist" was based on his case.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Robbie Doe. The movie "The Exorcist" was based on this 13 year-old boy's demon possession. However, instead of a boy the movie involves a girl who is demon possessed and the names of the exorcists were changed for sake of privacy.

Could have easily been schizophrenia.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Could have easily been schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia cannot produce the events or phenomena that Robbie Doe experienced and demonstrated.

"However, there is quite a bit about supposed demonic possession which cannot yet be explained by biology. This category includes such phenomenon as levitation, wounds appearing upon the victim that have not been inflicted by the self or another concrete source, knowledge of languages never before studied, sometimes never even heard, and psychic abilities such as knowing facts about other individuals that have never been met. In addition, the accompanying situations related to the area around possessed individuals do not seem to be explainable in terms of the brain or any aspect of biology; science cannot yet explain the distinct decrease in temperature of the room the individual occupies, the appearance of writing and sounds from an unseen force, and the movement of objects on their own (2).

One can come to two conclusions when faced with this evidence. The first is that the cause of such circumstances will eventually be determined by further study of the brains of reportedly possessed individuals. This might reveal that there is something biologically (and entirely secularly) unique about such individuals which allows them to be capable of creating such phenomena by themselves; in this case it could be determined that demonic possession is nothing but a myth perpetuated for centuries. On the other hand, the possibility that demonic possession is a real occurrence cannot yet be rejected; no thoroughly decisive evidence exists to the contrary. What is currently known about science cannot fully explain every situation reported to be a case of demonic possession, at least not by the methods which science currently employs. Until science can explain each detail, if indeed it ever can, one cannot dismiss the possibility that demonic possession is a real and true phenomenon."

--Melissa A. Bromwell, Demonic Possession

I won't dismiss the possibility, but I also won't dismiss the possibility of it being in an illness or an elaborate hoax. Some people can do weird things, that are tricks such as David Blaine, he's not possessed. It's a mixture of sleight of hand, the power of deduction and basic social psychology.

Not to mention, you know, illusion.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I won't dismiss the possibility, but I also won't dismiss the possibility of it being in an illness or an elaborate hoax. Some people can do weird things, that are tricks such as David Blaine, he's not possessed. It's a mixture of sleight of hand, the power of deduction and basic social psychology.

The best thing for you to do chillmeistergen is to research this boy's account, review all of the information, then come to a conclusion. There is no way for you to truly understand that what he went through was not capable of being a hoax based on external phenomena and the circumstances of his case. There are certain things that people can do to give demons legal entry and legal right into their lives. Robbie Doe did just that. He experimented with ouja boards until one day he became inhabited by the very demons that he opened the door to. Those demons had a legal right to enter into his body and life to torment him.

Tell me chillmeistergen: how could a 13-year-old boy cause an iron bed to levitate? This boy was not an illusionist, magician, special effects producer, or anything of the sort. How could he cause wounds (actual claw marks) to appear on his back and over various parts of his body in the presence of several witnesses? How could Robbie cause the room that he occupied to become icy cold? How could Robbie speak Latin, Hebrew, and Aramaic having never studied them? How could Robbie cause objects to fly across the room? How could he cause doors to open and slam closed repeatedly? The acrid stench that those who are demon possessed exude and many other things are just some examples or signs of a demon possessed individual. In addition, exorcists do not just arbitrarily go in and start attempting to cast demons out of people. They actually do their due diligence to rule out mental illness or other psychological conditions. The have their criteria for going forward with the process to rid someone of demons. Robbie Doe's situation was deemed a case of demon possession based on all of the facts of his case.