Spider-Man vs. Doc Samson...With a Twist!

Originally posted by tkitna
Theres no use arguing. Its already been shown that characters that are three to four times weaker and less durable always take the win around here. A world wide threat,,,,we dont want characters like the Surfer, Thor, Hulk, or Sentry on the job. Heck no, we want Spiderman. Better yet, we better not take any chances, better get Frogman on the phone to take out the threat in a panel or less. Geez.

Chill out. Whenever I say a wekaer character wins I always give reasons as to why. If Spider-Man hadn't already proven he could take it to the big guns then I wouldn't argue. Point is strength isn't everything

Originally posted by marvelprince
Pissed off Spider-Man lashed out at Rhino (before he became totally sucky) and hurt him with a flurry of punches and kicks. Spider-Man can definitely hurt Doc Samson

His punches can apparently hurt any body. But like I said, unless he can punch harder than Hulk, his blows won't really do any thing to Samson.

Originally posted by lando005
calm down man breath

Now i'm being called names from some zit nosed kid that probably gets picked on everyday at school. Is nothing sacred anymore?

Originally posted by tkitna
Now i'm being called names from some zit nosed kid that probably gets picked on everyday at school. Is nothing sacred anymore?

Mature? Your the one who resorted to the name calling.

Also, here's a clue,,,I wish you really knew how little I care about the debate. If I didnt work for 12 hours and browse the internet due to boredom, I wouldnt even have known this site existed.

As for the topic content,,,,,I realize Spiderman would win the majority of the battles (he sells all the books), but sometimes the feats that characters perform are just so overblown (ala him beating Hulk and Firelord) they need to be pointed out. So calm down little fella.

Originally posted by tkitna
Mature? Your the one who resorted to the name calling.

Also, here's a clue,,,I wish you really knew how little I care about the debate. If I didnt work for 12 hours and browse the internet due to boredom, I wouldnt even have known this site existed.

As for the topic content,,,,,I realize Spiderman would win the majority of the battles (he sells all the books), but sometimes the feats that characters perform are just so overblown (ala him beating Hulk and Firelord) they need to be pointed out. So calm down little fella.

Originally posted by Accel
He's also hurt the likes Absorbing Man (the guy who could takes attacks from Odin) as well as Firelord (the uy who could take cosmic blasts).

His punches can apparently hurt any body. But like I said, unless he can punch harder than Hulk, his blows won't really do any thing to Samson.

Thats a bit of stretch don't you think? No one short of Hulk strength can hurt Samson?

PS. And tkitna I think there is a misunderstanding. I think Lando meant to say "Calm down man, breathe" but you interpreted as "Calm down, man breath". He wasn't calling you a name (if he was "man breathe" certainly would have not made any sense to me), he was just trying to tell you take it easy breathe. You owe each other apologies

Originally posted by marvelprince
Thats a bit of stretch don't you think? No one short of Hulk strength can hurt Samson?

The fact of the matter is, if he can take a blow from Hulk can keep going strong for a long time, Spider-Man's punches will at best be a minor nuisance.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Thats a bit of stretch don't you think? No one short of Hulk strength can hurt Samson?

PS. And tkitna I think there is a misunderstanding. I think Lando meant to say "Calm down man, breathe" but you interpreted as "Calm down, man breath". He wasn't calling you a name (if he was "man breathe" certainly would have not made any sense to me), he was just trying to tell you take it easy breathe. You owe each other apologies

Originally posted by Accel
I'm not using it to say someone like Thing or Colossus can't hurt him, but Spider-Man isn't nearly as strong as guys like those.

The fact of the matter is, if he can take a blow from Hulk can keep going strong for a long time, Spider-Man's punches will at best be a minor nuisance.

And why are you assuming that punching is the only way to take him down? For one he think he can do it ala how Northstar was able to hurt that Paulie even though he was supposedly invunerable cause he hit him many times super fast. I'm sure Spider-man could achieve something similar. He could also suffocate him with the webbing, or with the liquid metal of his costume. There's more than one way for Spider-man to win yet all I see for Samsons favor is that he fought the Hulk

Originally posted by marvelprince
And why are you assuming that punching is the only way to take him down? For one he think he can do it ala how Northstar was able to hurt that Paulie even though he was supposedly invunerable cause he hit him many times super fast. I'm sure Spider-man could achieve something similar.

Samson may be hurt a little bit, but not nearly enough to lose consciousness from it.

Originally posted by marvelprince
He could also suffocate him with the webbing, or with the liquid metal of his costume. There's more than one way for Spider-man to win yet all I see for Samsons favor is that he fought the Hulk

Sorry Lando. Its all cool. I see now that it was a typo. Sorry for the retort.

Originally posted by tkitna
Sorry Lando. Its all cool. I see now that it was a typo. Sorry for the retort.

Hehe..."man-breath". 😆

Originally posted by Accel
The Hulk example was to show that Samson can easily take Spider-man's punches. Spidey MAY hurt him a little, but why any one would consider that a victory is beyond me. Spider-Man's punches would be about as effective as Cartman trying to fatally wound Kyle with a wifflebat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE-8oWloI10

Samson may be hurt a little bit, but not nearly enough to lose consciousness from it.

Or Samson could just thunderclap a dozen times, slow Spidey down long enough for him to get his hands on him, and be done with it.

Where's this thunderclap thing coming from? Samson is only 70 tons. He's not strong enough to produce an effective thunderclap that will effect Spider-man. And doesn't his costume also have a sound filter so it won't even make noise much less rattle him. Or than thunderclapping (which I'd like for you to prove can be done btw) how does Doc win this? And you still didn't answer my question about Spider-Man suffocating him. What stops Spider-Man from going invisible, sneaking up behind Samson and choking him with the liquid metal of his costume (till he passes out)

Originally posted by marvelprince
Where's this thunderclap thing coming from? Samson is only 70 tons. He's not strong enough to produce an effective thunderclap that will effect Spider-man.

Originally posted by marvelprince
And doesn't his costume also have a sound filter so it won't even make noise much less rattle him.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Or than thunderclapping (which I'd like for you to prove can be done btw) how does Doc win this?

All one really needs is two things: super-strength and the ability to slap their hands together.

The thunderclap is the easiest way for Samson to take Peter down, just as originally (under normal circumstances) Spider-Man pulling out Samson's hair is the best way to beat him. Without it, Samson has to rely on his stamina for Spider-Man to wear himself out, as well as apparently protect his mouth from webbing.

Originally posted by marvelprince
And you still didn't answer my question about Spider-Man suffocating him. What stops Spider-Man from going invisible, sneaking up behind Samson and choking him with the liquid metal of his costume (till he passes out)

Cant Spidey just use his stingers and sting
Samson in the eyes or something like that.

AFAIK Spidey is even stronger than Class 15 after the Other event.
Problem is the extent of his upgrade isnt stated yet.
There is some speculation he is class 20 now or higher.

Whatever for me this is a 50/50 match.

i dont think spidy would allow multiple t claps

Spidey FTW.