Originally posted by Nichole
Even if that person is not in their right frame of mind?
Righ...righ...right? Whatß Sorry, I didn't catch that. Are you saying that you are in the right frame of mind and other people that might have the wish to die aren't. Cause well, I wouldn't be so pretentious to assume my frame of mind is the "right" one. Anyways, yeah, I would,d say even if you think someone is not in the right frame of mind they should be allowed to kill themselves or get themselves killed. I mean, they probably won't regret it afterwards.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Are you sure?? Oh, that's right you covered yourself with the word "Probably"......
Of course I am not sure. Only fools think they are sure. And i don't need to cover myself with the word probably, as it is implied in all I say. I don't know anything. I don't even know that I don't know anything. I might know something. But I don't know if I know something. Do you understand? You probably don't.
I’m all for it.
Drug companies don't need any more money off of anti depressants and the world doesn't need pill popping depressed zombie like humans overpopulating the beautiful planet they so desperately want to leave.
Side note to all the people who want to kill themselves do it before you have kids and overpopulate the orphanages with suicidal replicas of yourself.
I don't think I can answer this for sure. I mean, euthanasia in the case of a terminal illness, I do agree with. But for depression? Where do you draw the line? How do you assess whether someone's quite depressed enough to be allowed that 'Get Out of Jail Free' card? Who makes the final decision? If I were really depressed, I mean really, I would hope that whoever I begged to help me end my life would at least refuse enough times to give me a chance to work through the problems.
Originally posted by Syren
I don't think I can answer this for sure. I mean, euthanasia in the case of a terminal illness, I do agree with. But for depression? Where do you draw the line? How do you assess whether someone's quite depressed enough to be allowed that 'Get Out of Jail Free' card? Who makes the final decision? If I were really depressed, I mean really, I would hope that whoever I begged to help me end my life would at least refuse enough times to give me a chance to work through the problems.
...get out of jail card? What the hell, it's their life, they can decide when to end it. That's as far as it goes.
Well, that's what it seems like to me. An easy way out. A lot of drepressed people still have family and people who would be devastated if they died. I think it's weak, suicide. But that's just my opinion. I've been in an unhealthy mental state myself and I didn't attempt suicide. It crossed my mind but it wasn't what I really wanted, I wanted to be myself again.
Originally posted by Syren
Well, that's what it seems like to me. An easy way out. A lot of drepressed people still have family and people who would be devastated if they died. I think it's weak, suicide. But that's just my opinion. I've been in an unhealthy mental state myself and I didn't attempt suicide. It crossed my mind but it wasn't what I really wanted, I wanted to be myself again.
Originally posted by sislobo2000@hot
HELLO,I USE TO WANT O HURT MYSELF AND WANTED DO suicide, BUT ITS NOT WORTH IT I WANT TO LIVE ITS JUST I LOST EVERY TING IN MY LIFE AND MY HOME AND MY DAUGHTER SHE IS MY WORLD .
BUT NOW I'M FEELING BETTER THOUGHT MEDICATION AND MOST IS PRAYER AND BEIFE IN JESUS !.
THANKS GOD BLESS YOU ALL !!
i think that's more of the drugs talking than jesus
Originally posted by Bardock42
Not sure if it is easy. It's ****ing hard for me. But it is a way out that everyone should be entitled to. It is not anyones duty to live their life for others.
I understand that, but if everyone's entitled to take their own life, as it's theirs, then bringing everyone into the equation is the mistake. Legalising suicide in cases of depression and labelling it euthanasia (which, in the cases of terminal illness, I understand) is what I'm arguing against, not the freedom an individual has to end their own suffering.
It is not anyones duty to live their life for others.
And it is not anyone's duty to help another end their life.
Originally posted by Syren
I understand that, but if everyone's entitled to take their own life, as it's theirs, then bringing everyone into the equation is the mistake. Legalising suicide in cases of depression and labelling it euthanasia (which, in the cases of terminal illness, I understand) is what I'm arguing against, not the freedom an individual has to end their own suffering.It is not anyones duty to live their life for others.
And it is not anyone's duty to help another end their life.
No, but it should be their right. To forbid them is idiotic. It's not like the suicidal person is forcing the other to kill them. They are asking them to help. What has that to do with duty?
Originally posted by Bardock42
No, but it should be their right. To forbid them is idiotic. It's not like the suicidal person is forcing the other to kill them. They are asking them to help. What has that to do with duty?
It should be an individual's right to end their own life, yes. Fair enough. But when it starts getting blown out of proportion like this, it becomes arguable. I just don't think depression is reason enough for anyone to help another person end their life. When it's terminal illness, it's validated. But imagine how you would feel if someone close to you begged you to help them die because they were depressed, even though they were perfectly healthy physically. Could you do it and live with what you'd done? I couldn't. I'd be forever questioning my decision and wondering if the depression could have been cured. It's not an incurable disease. There's always a chance for recovery. So individual rights stands but involvement of others is where I become uncomfortable.
Originally posted by Syren
It should be an individual's right to end their own life, yes. Fair enough. But when it starts getting blown out of proportion like this, it becomes arguable. I just don't think depression is reason enough for anyone to help another person end their life. When it's terminal illness, it's validated. But imagine how you would feel if someone close to you begged you to help them die because they were depressed, even though they were perfectly healthy physically. Could you do it and live with what you'd done? I couldn't. I'd be forever questioning my decision and wondering if the depression could have been cured. It's not an incurable disease. There's always a chance for recovery. So individual rights stands but involvement of others is where I become uncomfortable.
And it should be someone else's right to help that individual if for whatever reasons it needs the help. You want to decide what reasons are acceptable for the person that wants to die and the person that helps. It is none of your business. Those two have to decide if the reason in their case is enough.
See, you think because you couldn't that it would be better to make it illegal. That is wrong reasoning. What is best for you is not best for everyone. Freedom is the better way to go in this case. If I can't live with it afterwards I won't do it. Easy as that.