Originally posted by Accel
Compared to Zoom he is.For Hunter Zolomon she is.
The thing is, neither Supes nor WW would get the chance to any of this.
Zoom's powers allow him to basicallly do a million things in a second. Before they got the chance to do ANYTHING, he'd be all over them.
First off, there are no stips to this thread. So we dont' know if it's a bell, if they are flying, or what is going on. IF they are flying, he will never get one hit in. 2ndly, It's not like They are so weak as his hits will kill them. I'm not buying it. But every one is entitled to thier own opinion.
Originally posted by bigbran
It's called powers.
Your reaching.
No one in comics should fly then.
Being biten by a Spider shouldn't give you powers.
etc.You're reaching.
Um no. He travels in time. He should be faster than everyone relatively. It doesn't mean he gets stamina or can run from china to america without exhaustion. I"m not reaching. If it were a character you were arguing against, you would call up the same kinds of logic. I call something how I see it and I"m reaching. Ill make sure the next time you call something out that is BS or illogical and i'll tell you the same bs line. It's in comics.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First off, there are no stips to this thread. So we dont' know if it's a bell, if they are flying, or what is going on. IF they are flying, he will never get one hit in. 2ndly, It's not like They are so weak as his hits will kill them. I'm not buying it. But every one is entitled to thier own opinion.
WW's not even an issue. Zoom could just grab something sharp and pointy and stab her a few hundred times all around. Then he could focus all his attenton on Superman.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um no. He travels in time. He should be faster than everyone relatively. It doesn't mean he gets stamina or can run from china to america without exhaustion. I"m not reaching. If it were a character you were arguing against, you would call up the same kinds of logic. I call something how I see it and I"m reaching. Ill make sure the next time you call something out that is BS or illogical and i'll tell you the same bs line. It's in comics.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlYour using logic in comic books!
Um no. He travels in time. He should be faster than everyone relatively. It doesn't mean he gets stamina or can run from china to america without exhaustion. I"m not reaching. If it were a character you were arguing against, you would call up the same kinds of logic. I call something how I see it and I"m reaching. Ill make sure the next time you call something out that is BS or illogical and i'll tell you the same bs line. It's in comics.
That logic could also go to any character in comics. How does moving planets work? How does flying work? How does Iron Man's suit work?
You see?
That's why I said you're reaching.
Originally posted by Accel
We normally assume they start on the groununless stated otherwise.WW's not even an issue. Zoom could just grab something sharp and pointy and stab her a few hundred times all around. Then he could focus all his attenton on Superman.
The problem with most of these threads is that we dont know if the characters know that they are fighting. If they know they are fighting, then what's to stop Ww from going into the match with her braclets crossed, her sandles on, which slow time and dimension hop, or some other method. The problem with threads like these is it's lopsided. If every one thinks that zoom is so fast that they can't do a thing about it, then what is the point of the thread? If every idea that I state is possible but no one sees it as so, then what is the debate for? and if you have characters with superspeed, then you have to set the match so that all sides have at least a chance for a hit in or else it's not even a good match.
Originally posted by bigbran
Your using logic in comic books!That logic could also go to any character in comics. How does moving planets work? How does flying work? How does Iron Man's suit work?
You see?That's why I said you're reaching.
And yet ur still not getting it. We know that the flash has an accelerated metabolism and unlimted stamina that allows him to race around the world and not get tired. Zoom has no such thing. He is only moving faster than the time flow. He should be able to outrace every one for short distances. But he should get tired. it's not logical even for the character's abilities. Period.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlStop answering my posts, if your going to do this.
And yet ur still not getting it. We know that the flash has an accelerated metabolism and unlimted stamina that allows him to race around the world and not get tired. Zoom has no such thing. He is only moving faster than the time flow. He should be able to outrace every one for short distances. But he should get tired. it's not logical even for the character's abilities. Period.
He is still able to do this in every damn book!!
Not just one book....but everyone of them!
Why does Spiderman last so long? What does a spider do for endurance?
Plus you're arguement has changed quite a few times in this thread.
First he can't do anything, next, you're arguing that he's a cheap character, and this thread is lopsided? 🤨
Originally posted by bigbran
Stop answering my posts, if your going to do this.He is still able to do this in every damn book!!
Not just one book....but everyone of them!Why does Spiderman last so long? What does a spider do for endurance?
Plus you're arguement has changed quite a few times in this thread.
First he can't do anything, next, you're arguing that he's a cheap character, and this thread is lopsided? 🤨
NO my argument hasn't changed. I'm saying IF they can't do anything as you all suggest, what is the point of the thread. REad with an open mind and you'll see what i'm saying instead of what you want me to be saying. Spiders have super strength. In Comics and in the real world, the stronger you are, the more stamina you have.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The problem with most of these threads is that we dont know if the characters know that they are fighting. If they know they are fighting, then what's to stop Ww from going into the match with her braclets crossed, her sandles on, which slow time and dimension hop, or some other method. The problem with threads like these is it's lopsided. If every one thinks that zoom is so fast that they can't do a thing about it, then what is the point of the thread? If every idea that I state is possible but no one sees it as so, then what is the debate for? and if you have characters with superspeed, then you have to set the match so that all sides have at least a chance for a hit in or else it's not even a good match.
As for the thread itself, many threads are worse than this. SOme people just make these because they want to hear other peoples' opinions or start some debate like what we have here.
Originally posted by Accel
All that would be part of prep. In a no prep fight, you basically have the combatants pushed into the fighting area with some basic knowledge of their opponents, meaning no extra items. WW can't cross her bracelets before the battle, Silver Surfer can't amp himself up, GL can't make constructs, etc.As for the thread itself, many threads are worse than this. SOme people just make these because they want to hear other peoples' opinions or start some debate like what we have here.
When it comes to characters with superior speed, there needs to be some kind of prep. I cannot stand Speed blitz for the win in every other thread. That is why I try and pick opponents who are similiar in skills and powers. You'll NEVER see a thread of mine having Superman fighting Hulk. So everyone can say SPeed blitz ftw. What kind of debate is that?