Zoom vs. Thor/Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Priest
with thor dont know...
superman is more durable than surfer.

Originally posted by grey fox
[b]zoom can simply manipulate his own time stream and make himself even faster
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Originally posted by Priest
thor would still kick superman's ass
😖hifty:

..only through manipulating a direct weakness. It's like giving me a machine gun and a lump of K-nite and then saying 'Take this chump out' .

Originally posted by Wally West
If Zoom can limitless move ahead in the time stream and make himself faster and faster Wally would never have been able to catch up to him. He has a limit.

Originally posted by grey fox
WTF .

When the hell did this happen ?

Regardless it still doesn't matter , were not talking about freezing time in a localized area . Were talking about a man who is in control of his own TIME-STREAM.

White dwarf punch ftw

SS just enters Zoom time Stream and beats him up.

Zoom is not fast he just move in his Time-Stream.

SS can hop streams , and react just as fast.

Originally posted by kgkg
SS is way more durable with THor..... Thor gets K.O by far to many people. SS on his normal showings takes world destoying attks with no problem.

Originally posted by grey fox
..only through manipulating a direct weakness. It's like giving me a machine gun and a lump of K-nite and then saying 'Take this chump out' .

What weakness?

Originally posted by Wally West
If Zoom can limitless move ahead in the time stream and make himself faster and faster Wally would never have been able to catch up to him. He has a limit.

Yes , but Zoom wasn't trying to outrun Wally he was focused on trying to make wally a better hero by causing tragedy in his life.

Also Wally doesn't necessarily have limits , only those set in by the SF and the planet.

Didn't WW beat Zoom even though she got the Sh%t kicked oout of her in the process.

Originally posted by kgkg
SS has control time ........ he was able to freeze time everywhere.

SS just enters Zoom time Stream and beats him up.

Zoom is not fast he just move in his Time-Stream.

SS can hop streams , and react just as fast.

Originally posted by kgkg
not really

We've seen him go down to Hulk just recently, in what, 2 punches?
A thrown brick?
A bolt of lightning?
Thanos punched him out a few times.
Odin KOed him with relative ease.

It's all relative.

When we have the Surfer vs Superman threads, Surfer wins due to technicalities of being able to utilize weaknesses and stuff. If he actually tried to blow for blow with Superman, he would go down in a few moments time.

Originally posted by kgkg
SS has control time ........ he was able to freeze time everywhere.

SS just enters Zoom time Stream and beats him up.

Zoom is not fast he just move in his Time-Stream.

SS can hop streams , and react just as fast.

Scans please , and perhaps a direct reference to him stating the 'Time stream' hoppage.

Also is this 'Time manipualtion' a product of his recent upgrade.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Didn't WW beat Zoom even though she got the Sh%t kicked oout of her in the process.

Yes but WW has the almighty plot device behind her , followed by an army of Horny fans.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Didn't WW beat Zoom even though she got the Sh%t kicked oout of her in the process.

Originally posted by grey fox
Yes but WW has the almighty plot device behind her , followed by an army of Horny fans.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
What weakness?

Magic.

Originally posted by Priest
im jst basing my opinion on surfers fightw with thanos..thor can take a few blows with thanos without being KOed,surfer on the other hand usally gets Koed by a one or two shot. called it CIS i guess..

I have all the crossover of SS and THor... SS is more Duralable.

here are some feats.

Took world destoying shot from Korvac --- with no problem.
Stood in middle of Supernova----- With ease.
Took shots from Enslave---- Whole marvel char like hulk etc got K.O quick and easy.

When thor battle durok he was K.O SS showed durabilty.

etc SS is over more duarable that Thor.

SS also took shots from most of the Avenger at the same time without being K.O'es

Took Iron Man's best shot with no effect.

etc etc

Of course SS has some low end feats ... but overall he more duarable.

and every hero jobs to Thanos

Originally posted by grey fox
Scans please , and perhaps a direct reference to him stating the 'Time stream' hoppage.

Also is this 'Time manipualtion' a product of his recent upgrade.

Originally posted by Juntai
Yeah, really.

We've seen him go down to Hulk just recently, in what, 2 punches?
A thrown brick?
A bolt of lightning?
Thanos punched him out a few times.
Odin KOed him with relative ease.

It's all relative.

When we have the Surfer vs Superman threads, Surfer wins due to technicalities of being able to utilize weaknesses and stuff. If he actually tried to blow for blow with Superman, he would go down in a few moments time.

Surfer was explicitly weakened though. Explicitly.
The brick thing is bad, true.
Lightning?? Storms bolt??
Is that worse than the gas station explosion?

Thanos koed him.

As Darkseid has koed Superman. DD as well.

Odin koed him, true.

But Superman has been handled by low level supernatural creatures.

Odin, one of the most powerful skyfathers in comics>>>Low level magical creatures.

Jun, nobody said Surfer is unable to be koed. Its just not that easy.

I only took offense to the debateable notion that Superman is much more durable than Surfer.

Thor i buy, but not Surfer.

Originally posted by grey fox
Scans please , and perhaps a direct reference to him stating the 'Time stream' hoppage.

Also is this 'Time manipualtion' a product of his recent upgrade.

SS has froze time here.

also when he hops dimentions many times where even Space time has no effect.