Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
He was retconning the multiverse actually.What do you mean tearing the barriers down? That's pretty vague.
IIRC, he was actually destroying those realities, not tearing down barriers between them.
But, i could be wrong.
If Trion juggernaut was tearing through dimensional walls in the real world, that trumps Sbp making changes by hitting a special wall in a weird dimension/pocket hole.
Big difference.
Originally posted by UniOmni
IIRC, he was actually destroying those realities, not tearing down barriers between them.
But, i could be wrong.If Trion juggernaut was tearing through dimensional walls in the real world, that trumps Sbp making changes by hitting a special wall in a weird dimension/pocket hole.
Big difference.
Who was destroying realities? Juggy?
Alex specifically said that SBP can alter reality. It wasn't just the dimensional wall. First, E2 Supes hit the wall and nothing happened to reality, and second, SBP did pull a retcon punch when he broke out of the phantom zone. No "heaven" dimension needed.
Still, interesting battle. Anyone have scans of Juggy doing this dimension feat?
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
What did he retcon then?
Still, SBP needs a wall to hit. You can say hitting the Phantom Zome has never retconned anything but Oa's destruction has never restarted the universe either.
Originally posted by Validus
Beast Boy being in the Doom Patrol but I don't think that was a retcon in the first place. Maybe he jogged his memory.Still, SBP needs a wall to hit. You can say hitting the Phantom Zome has never retconned anything but Oa's destruction has never restarted the universe either.
The phantom zone is a dimension, not a wall. He punched his way out pretty effortlessly. So at most we have 2 characters now who can punch through dimensions.
I found that scene quite interesting when I read through the comic a second time. Particularly when the other 2 Supermen were cracking time/space but no retcons/memories of any type took place for any other characters.
It seemed to apply only towards SBP as Alex confirmed (and apparently thought he could control.)
At this point, I see this as a stalemate. I can't see either one beating the other.
If anyone has any good links/info on Trion Juggy. Please provide a link... and thanks Johnv for the scans provided.
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Well, if the retcon punch is something SBP can just do anytime (which i don't really buy), he obviously has no control over it. It's not like his hadoken or something.
Agreed. He doesn't have any control over what gets retconned. In all actually it was Alex who was working on figuring out the why and how it worked. SBP seems to activate it only when extremely emotional.
Punching through dimensions doesn't seem to be an issue though.