why exactly do you need other people to see you the way you see yourself... Do you really think you need other's to justify your own existence... and what do you mean by time being a loop... It's not like we just keep doing the same thing over and over again... time progresses... just because we base our time around the Earth's rotation doesn't mean that time itself is circular...
Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
Reality is relative. We only perceive what is real through our senses. It's not about physics at all, it's bodering on philosophy and psychology.A person with perfect hearing will hear you, but to a deaf person, you do not have a voice.
I can stare right at you for one moment, but once you walk away, there's no way of proving you still exist.
but exhistance has nothing to do with perception, or being able to sense someone elses thoughts for that matter. for example for thousands of years people had no concept of what a virus was becuase they couldn't detect it. eventually viruses were discovered. does this mean that sometime in the mid 1800's viruses just spontaneously came into being? no. they were always there, we just couldn't detect them. it's hard to argue against such a bizarre statement, but that's the best i cn do. why would you ever associate exhistance to whether or not you can detect something or whether or not you can sense its emotions. does this mean that no inanimate objects in the world exhist because they don't have feelings to sense??
Read some books on theoretical physics. Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time" is a decent place to start.
A lot of what you outline in your initial post are vague theories that could be made much more concrete and meaningful once you learn about the basics of Einstein's relativity, the beginnings of our universe, and the basic concepts of string theory.
Seriously, it changed how I perceive the universe to learn about this stuff...and it seems like you might benefit from it some as well. And the best part is, it's also scientifically-based stuff, so it's easier to swallow than, say, religious concepts on this stuff (though a lot of it isn't easy to grasp intellectually).
P.S. And yeah, many people see that when they begin to break things down, nothing truly "exists". But rather than let it make you nihilistic, it's an opportunity to comprehend the 'one-ness' of everything. The vast number of unififed field theories that exist within science support this general idea.
Time isn't quite circular, but it's not linear either. It's a construct unique to the circumstances of our universe, and can go slower or faster for people based on velocities and gravitational masses and such (i.e. see einstein for a better explanation).
If the universe were to begin contracting, for example, it's theorized that time would begin to reverse itself. Yeah, no joke. And at the point of total universal collapse, the very idea of time likely wouldn't exist because the mass of the universe would be warped in on itself so much that it would, in effect, simply be a loop of infinitude.
None of this really effects us in the daily grind of life, but it's interesting stuff.
Again, not joking. I'm paraphrasing Stephen Hawking madly here (hopefully not inaccurately) but I'll stop beforre I say more that is of dubious validity without the actual book in front of me.
School took us one day to a museum of human anatomy. It was a brief and interesting tour, specially at the skeleton section...that's male, that's female...there was a definition! Some of the skulls had real hair preserved...others didn't. One amazing thing happened, I was looking deep into the eyes cavities of one and I saw the reflection of its eyes like its ghost itself! It scared the hell out of me and I swear never to visit a place like that EVER! People scientifically specially psychologists assume that our mind elaborates states of illusion and I wonder what's the cause of that "illusion" they call it. It was clear and real.
At least one person has to exist. If I perceive you, and you perceive me, then it can be one of three ways.
1.I'm real, and I only THINK you're perceiving me.
2.You're Real, and You only think I'm perceiving you. (Actualy, in your case, that's questionable.)
3.We're both real.
I KNOW that I'm real, because I perceive things, but that's one thing that is 100% impossible to prove to someone else. Therefore, from my perpective, 1 and 3 are the only real options. And from your perspective, only 2 and 3 are feasable options.
It's irreconcilable, since the options are unprovable. But since 1 and 2 controdict each other, I'd go with option 3.
Other peoples perception of you, what does it mean? If someone likes or hates you isn't that their problem? Guess it comes down Lets Make a Deal, have had many people like me that I don't care for and its been heartbreaking for them, but we are under no obligations as individuals to drop what we do just because someone likes us.
I reserve the right for anyone to treat me as they want, as long as you don't mess with my paycheck. Perception and viewpoint, like your anus, everybody has one.