Originally posted by newjak86There is also a huge difference with Flash and slade.
That is true but there is a huge differnce between Kid Flash and Spidey I can see Slade being able to more than keep up.But then again Slade is amaster to making people fight his way.
Speaking o which I made a story about this fight tell me what you guys think
Spiderman makes people fight on his terms all of the time, hence why I said it was a draw in my opinion. Bloodlusted is a different story.
Originally posted by newjak86My motto is this. If I accept Slade tagging a flash as ok, they I have to accept everything others due like wolverine for example.
Speed wise Slade has managed t keep up with Kid Flash I'm not bringing up the whole Flash thing but keeping up with Kid Flash is no low showing.Secondly Versatility wise I would give it to Slade. Basically because he carries not just his sword but his energy staff and is other weapons such as gernades
Deathstroke wins if this is CLASSIC Spiderman. Spiderman has trouble with the following....
Daredevil-Deathsytroke has a similar warning sense that works a little differently.
Wolverine-While Deathstroke's healing factor isn't as advanced as Wolverine's, he still has one. Besides, DS doesn't have to worry about guns, edged blades, or explosives in this fight. I believe DS is tough enough to take Spiderman's blows.....Considering he can connect in the first place.
Punisher-Punisher has tagged Spiderman before. Well guess what, DS has shot Kid-Flash numerous times before.
Captain America-Cap uses his superior fighting skills, expirience, and shield when fighting Spiderman. DS doesn't neeed a shield because 1.He has a healing factor and 2.He is a **** of alot faster than Cap. DS is the REAL Super Soldier.
DS has the following in this fight.........
- accuracy and firepower of Punisher.
- mind/intelligence and skill of Batman.
- precognitive sense similar to Batgirl or Daredevil.
- Ferociosness of Wolverine.
- Healing Factor
- Smarter
- More Skilled
The only real advantage Spiderman has in this fight is his strength. Spiderman is class 15 and DS is class 4-5 at best.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThe only thing PIS about that fight was the Flash/GL fight, that's it. And DS has beaten Flash numerous times before. But, that particular fight was PIS.
I always find it amazing how people try feel satisfied with Spiderman having problems with guys like DD and Cap, but then argue Slade beating the JLA...I could bring up Spiderman beating a herald... I mean, what could DS do against that?
Originally posted by Darth MartinPIS isn't contingent on consistency at all. Make a DS vs Flash thread please, and see how many people would argue DS winning outside of a comic.
The only thing PIS about that fight was the Flash/GL fight, that's it. And DS has beaten Flash numerous times before. But, that particular fight was PIS.
P.S I'm serious.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterDo you really want to open that barrel of monkeys because in the end how many people can say they were out fighting the JLA a bunch of close to Herald level if not herald level characters at one time. 😛
I always find it amazing how people try feel satisfied with Spiderman having problems with guys like DD and Cap, but then argue Slade beating the JLA...I could bring up Spiderman beating a herald... I mean, what could DS do against that?
Anyways DS has shown that with his reaction times he can keep up with Super Speedsters for a limited amount of time and Spidey is no where close to those guys so I don't think DS will have a hard time following and moving with Spidey.
And like it has already been said besides Strength I really don't see any advantage Spidey really has in this fight.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterIts been done and everyone agrees and at least should agree Flash wins but that doesn't change the fact that Slade can react at those speeds for a limited time and Spiderman still is no where close to that.
PIS isn't contingent on consistency at all. Make a DS vs Flash thread please, and see how many people would argue DS winning outside of a comic.P.S I'm serious.
Originally posted by newjak86Well I could open a circular argument and say Slade has been offed by Nightwing.
Do you really want to open that barrel of monkeys because in the end how many people can say they were out fighting the JLA a bunch of close to Herald level if not herald level characters at one time. 😛Anyways DS has shown that with his reaction times he can keep up with Super Speedsters for a limited amount of time and Spidey is no where close to those guys so I don't think DS will have a hard time following and moving with Spidey.
And like it has already been said besides Strength I really don't see any advantage Spidey really has in this fight.
Slade can't break out of his webbing with no leverage. I believe him to be slightly slower, and he doesn't have true precog if I'm correct, but instant reflexes making him hard to hit.
Which is why I said a draw.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterYou would do that 😛
Well I could open a circular argument and say Slade has been offed by Nightwing.Slade can't break out of his webbing with no leverage. I believe him to be slightly slower, and he doesn't have true precog if I'm correct, but instant reflexes making him hard to hit.
Which is why I said a draw.
But anyways did you read my fight CM?
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterI understand that but it has been stated that DS brain is enhanced and can see the world in slow motion.
He's saying that simply because it happened doesn't make it a reliable argument.
I mean after him doing it enough and it being thrown at us all the time it hard to simply discredit it.
I mean this isn't Wolverine beating Hulk Slade has advanced reflexes and incredible thinking ability which has always been a central part of the character.
I don't see it as out of the ball park as much as other people do for him to react to the first few moments of Super Speeds like the Flash just getting started.
Originally posted by newjak86Because Flash always has his mind working at that speed, he doesn't go really slow and THEN run, he runs right off... insta speed.
I understand that but it has been stated that DS brain is enhanced and can see the world in slow motion.I mean after him doing it enough and it being thrown at us all the time it hard to simply discredit it.
I mean this isn't Wolverine beating Hulk Slade has advanced reflexes and incredible thinking ability which has always been a central part of the character.
I don't see it as out of the ball park as much as other people do for him to react to the first few moments of Super Speeds like the Flash just getting started.
Spiderman is 20x faster than a person, I'm sure that he fights people in slower motion as well, the movie kinda depicted it well. Slade is a good calculator, but he's no Flash.