Thor/Odin vs. Orion /Darksied

Started by long pig7 pages

Originally posted by Soujaboy
So if DS has no feats how do we know that he can defeat Odin?

He has tons of feats including beating D.C's Odin. But seriously, he has tons and tons of feats.

Originally posted by long pig
He has tons of feats including beating D.C's Odin. But seriously, he has tons and tons of feats.

Is Dc's Odin as powerful as Marvels Odin?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Is Dc's Odin as powerful as Marvels Odin?

DC's Odin was powerful enough to banish DC's Surtur to a pocket universe that he created to hold Surtur. The same Surtur was able to stalemate the jsa who had thunderbolt. An imp from the 5th dimension. dr. fate, and alan scott. Kinda let's you know where DC odin's power lvl is now?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DC's Odin was powerful enough to banish DC's Surtur to a pocket universe that he created to hold Surtur. The same Surtur was able to stalemate the jsa who had thunderbolt. An imp from the 5th dimension. dr. fate, and alan scott. Kinda let's you know where DC odin's power lvl is now?

No, that's not a feat that helps me understand what power lv he's on. Thats just seems like a low end feat for Marvel's Surtur. 😛

Originally posted by Soujaboy
No, that's not a feat that helps me understand what power lv he's on. Thats just seems like a low end feat for Marvel's Surtur. 😛

hah. I dare Marvel's surtur to stale mate the likes of Dr. Strange, Thunder Bolt And sentinal. 😛

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
hah. I dare Marvel's surtur to stale mate the likes of Dr. Strange, Thunder Bolt And sentinal. 😛

He could just destroy the Galaxy there in, killing them all. 😐

Originally posted by Soujaboy
He could just destroy the Galaxy there in, killing them all. 😐

Dr. fate has the knowlege to collapse universes. And thunder bolt has the power to do it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Dr. fate has the knowlege to collapse universes. And thunder bolt has the power to do it.

So has Dr. Fate and or Thunderbolt actually ever made a universe collapse? 🙄

Originally posted by Soujaboy
So has Dr. Fate and or Thunderbolt actually ever made a universe collapse? 🙄

Dr. fate has collapse a universe with 4 other beings. All of whom are not nearly as powerful as thunder bolt. Thunder bolt is an imp. So if DC's surtur can stale mate dr. fate and thunder bolt and alan, then DC's surtur is at least a match for marvel surtur if not more powerful. thus making DC's odin AT LEAST at match for marvel odin.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Dr. fate has collapse a universe with 4 other beings. All of whom are not nearly as powerful as thunder bolt. Thunder bolt is an imp. So if DC's surtur can stale mate dr. fate and thunder bolt and alan, then DC's surtur is at least a match for marvel surtur if not more powerful. thus making DC's odin AT LEAST at match for marvel odin.

So thats there best feats, and I'm supposed to put them on the lv of Marvel's Odin and Surtur? na they need more feats to be on that lv.

So do you have scans of this supposed "collapse of the universe?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
So thats there best feats, and I'm supposed to put them on the lv of Marvel's Odin and Surtur? na they need more feats to be on that lv.

So do you have scans of this supposed "collapse of the universe?

Dr. fate collapsed a universe when he fought the Ale. Thunder bolt is more powerful than fate and pretty much anyone else I can think of under Mr mxy. alan scot aint' no slouch either.

And I what do feats have to do with anything? Cap Marvel is said to be as strong as supers on this forum even tho he doesn't have the feats.

RKT is rated very high here with no feats. And so is Superman Prime.

ONslaught doesn't have that many feats, but we know how powerful he is.

SO DC Odin and Surtur are AT LEAST as powerful as thier marvel counter parts.

Originally posted by bigbran

Wait!!
In reguards to long pig. How did you get this insight, so you could know exactly how powerful his avatars were?
10%?

He said they were an extraction of a tiny portion of his near-infinite energy. The most an avatar's definitely done, however, is looking a peg greater than Etrigan in raw power. I don't think Odin would have any trouble creating a shade of himself greater than top tiers either. In fact, Heimdell with a fraction of Odin's power was clearly above the Masterson Thor.

As to the rest ...

It was Fate's power combined with that of Darkseid, Highfather, Orion, and Etrigan that held off the Anti-Life Entity and destroyed the dimension. Fate "controlled" the union, due to his power being "intellectual" in nature, but that's more of a feat for all of them than for any specific member. Dr. Fate wasn't on the JSA team that Surtur fought anywho, AFAIK. Thunderbolt was as per War of The Gods, tho.

Darkseid didn't "defeat" DC's Odin. It was merely stated by DC Odin that Darkseid's power is "beyond [Asgard's] ability to reckon."

Marvel team wins, since Odin takes Darkseid.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
He said they were an extraction of a tiny portion of his near-infinite energy. The most an avatar's definitely done, however, is looking a peg greater than Etrigan in raw power. I don't think Odin would have any trouble creating a shade of himself greater than top tiers either. In fact, Heimdell with a fraction of Odin's power was clearly above the Masterson Thor.

As to the rest ...

It was Fate's power combined with that of Darkseid, Highfather, Orion, and Etrigan that held off the Anti-Life Entity and destroyed the dimension. Fate "controlled" the union, due to his power being "intellectual" in nature, but that's more of a feat for all of them than for any specific member. Dr. Fate wasn't on the JSA team that Surtur fought anywho, AFAIK. Thunderbolt was as per War of The Gods, tho.

Darkseid didn't "defeat" DC's Odin. It was merely stated by DC Odin that Darkseid's power is "beyond [Asgard's] ability to reckon."

Darkseid is beyond Odin. Plain and simple. No way in getting around that. Darkseid is smarter, stronger, faster. Odin is more of a match for DC zeus. Not DS.

Marvel team wins, since Odin takes Darkseid.

Could go either way. Edge to DS and Orion though, as Orion fighting the best of his abilities would probably mangle Thor something fierce.

Btw, 5th Dimension being feats trump pretty much anything and everything I've seen from Odin. The idea that Surtur was fighting off him and the rest of the JSA is almost baffling.

Bump

Odin/Thor take the majority here 7/10

That was a low end showing for Thunderbolt. He's usually shown as dwarfing the rest of the JSA, even combined, but that wasn't the case here. Around the same period, much lesser JSAers gave Surtur some trouble. Still very impressive for Surtur, but I don't think he's beyond his Marvel counterpart.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
From a scan somewhere. One of the Avatars talked about being only 10% of DS' power. And some others where even lower because they weren't Avatars at all. They were others using DS' image.

I believe that Avatars are said to be a fraction of DS's power. It didn't say what amount. But usually in comics, a fraction means less than 5%. Or else they would say out right, ten percent, half power ect. Odin can really ramp it up if he wants. But So Can DS. This would be a good fight. [/B][/QUOTE]

Thank you!!!

The government demands that my cousin gives a fraction of his earnings to his baby's mother, in support of my little cousin his kid.

He'll be really happy to know that all he has to pay now, is around 5%!!

😮

What kinda out the ass thinking is that??

😘

And for the record, I'd give any battle between Thor and Orion an even split.

Orion did destroy what amounts to countless solar systems, but Thor did take a blast of energy that would've destroyed 1/5th of the universe.

But, imo, Odin is more powerful than Darkseid, and thats the tipping of the scale.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I believe that Avatars are said to be a fraction of DS's power. It didn't say what amount. But usually in comics, a fraction means less than 5%. Or else they would say out right, ten percent, half power ect. Odin can really ramp it up if he wants. But So Can DS. This would be a good fight.

Thank you!!!

The government demands that my cousin gives a fraction of his earnings to his baby's mother, in support of my little cousin his kid.

He'll be really happy to know that all he has to pay now, is around 5%!!

😮

What kinda out the ass thinking is that??

😘

And for the record, I'd give any battle between Thor and Orion an even split.

Orion did destroy what amounts to countless solar systems, but Thor did take a blast of energy that would've destroyed 1/5th of the universe.

But, imo, Odin is more powerful than Darkseid, and thats the tipping of the scale. [/B][/QUOTE]

Odin isn't more powerful than DS. geez, you guys have Odin beating his DC counter part, Zues who is more powerful than DC odin and now Darkseid. When will the madness end?