If SBP was released in the Marvel Universe...

Started by R.O.T. Yahman9 pages

Originally posted by Scoobless
Not if Thor and BRB used their hammers to help absorb that radiation... that's be more like emptying a bucket by tipping it upside down

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Maybe, but i've only ever seen the absorbtion technique deployed against the Presence (A character whose energies levels are like a fire cracker to a nuke compared to SBP.) They die long b4 they have a chance to absorb all his energy.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Maybe, but i've only ever seen the absorbtion technique deployed against the Presence (A character whose energies levels are like a fire cracker to a nuke compared to SBP.) They die long b4 they have a chance to absorb all his energy.
Um yeah a character who fought a group of retarded GLS using none of their upper abilities and was taken down by two supermen. I would wager Thor and BRB do live that long 😉

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Um yeah a character who fought a group of retarded GLS using none of their upper abilities and was taken down by two supermen. I would wager Thor and BRB do live that long 😉

If one is going to make an argument its a good idea to state some factual premises to back up ones conclusion. You're point is mute, as you are comparing two characters who not only inferior to KAL L and KAL El in strength and Speed, you have missed the most important fact that its was literally a 'back stab'. KAL l and Kal had to catch Prime off guard and then hurl him through a reed Sun b4 any harm was inflicted.

Back to the other point, don't forget that a G.L.'s abilities is based on Will power, if i was a bout to face a Kryptonian who could literally end the universe with a single attack, who was known to have moved Worlds like chess pieces, i would hardly be in the Prime of confidence. No wonder they weren't at their best, they where probably Shitting their pants.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
if i was a bout to face a Kryptonian who could literally end the universe with a single attack, who was known to have moved Worlds like chess pieces, i would hardly be in the Prime of confidence. No wonder they weren't at their best, they where probably Shitting their pants.

Gardner doesn't do fear, he's up for a rematch anytime!

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Originally posted by Scoobless
Gardner doesn't do fear, he's up for a rematch anytime!

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And he doesn't usually fare wel against Kryptonians. I mean Doomsday whent through him like a knife through butter. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I havent seen anything from Zemo to suggest that he is that much above Hal, Speed blitz and overall will power take this. It took the entire corpo to slow him down for christs sakes. Zemos the Plannets greatest hope, but he still only has human speed reactions. Surfer and Thor written to their full potentials (I.e. using their dimensional powers) may also have a chance, buts its still a slim one. Both hacve been KO'ed by beings considerably weaker than SBP.

If the GLC were written to their full potential, SBP wouldn't have been more than a nuisance.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
If one is going to make an argument its a good idea to state some factual premises to back up ones conclusion. You're point is mute, as you are comparing two characters who not only inferior to KAL L and KAL El in strength and Speed, you have missed the most important fact that its was literally a 'back stab'. KAL l and Kal had to catch Prime off guard and then hurl him through a reed Sun b4 any harm was inflicted.

Back to the other point, don't forget that a G.L.'s abilities is based on Will power, if i was a bout to face a Kryptonian who could literally end the universe with a single attack, who was known to have moved Worlds like chess pieces, i would hardly be in the Prime of confidence. No wonder they weren't at their best, they where probably Shitting their pants.

Inferior hardly is the term when you have two combatants that have walking plot devices in their hands. God force blasts, turning off Powers are all in Thors arsenal. Zemo is another problem when you consider that fact that he can look through probabilities and base his chances on possible future outcomes that he has seen. Not to mention pulling a genis and trapping him in different moments in time. Reed is another problem altogether.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
And he doesn't usually fare wel against Kryptonians. I mean Doomsday whent through him like a knife through butter. 😖hifty:

Pffft.... If Guy was written properly that never would have happened... He attacked DD with his face for god's sake

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And this is how you do a shifty ... 😖hifty:

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Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I cant rememberer him EVA EVA actually hurting him,
So punching him around, and making his mouth bleed? Isn't hurting him?

Originally posted by bigbran
So punching him around, and making his mouth bleed? Isn't hurting him?

That was Panthera's blood, because just in case you forgot, he demolished her face. I don't know if you know this or not, but when someones head explodes from blunt force trauma (expecially from a reality warping fist) there tends to be blood splatter. Also, you most likely never took into account the fact that on the same page he blasted someone in half. So if it was not Panthera's blood, then it was certainly whoever's blood who he blasted in half.

If the explosion of a human head from blunt trauma can cause so much blood, then imagine how much blood a human body being blasted in half would cause. So no, that was no more Superboy Prime's blood then it would be Wolverine's blood after he's cut someone in half.

Originally posted by Sirius77
That was Panthera's blood, because just in case you forgot, he demolished her face. I don't know if you know this or not, but when someones head explodes from blunt force trauma (expecially from a reality warping fist) there tends to be blood splatter. Also, you most likely never took into account the fact that on the same page he blasted someone in half. So if it was not Panthera's blood, then it was certainly whoever's blood who he blasted in half.

If the explosion of a human head from blunt trauma can cause so much blood, then imagine how much blood a human body being blasted in half would cause. So no, that was no more Superboy Prime's blood then it would be Wolverine's blood after he's cut someone in half.

Jepers. You have no idea what I'm talking about.
Originally posted by bigbran

I read it, but you've persuaded me that I was wrong.
Yup, wrong.
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00274tz.jpg
Oh, jeez, a bloody mouth, this goes against your "untouched" theories.
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00317ad.jpg

Here is what happened when he was supposedly untouched. 🙄
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=139ex.jpg

As far as the bloody mouth theory goes, he could have just bitten his own tongue from the impact of the punch, after all it stands to reason that he would not be invulnerable to his own teeth.

The Krypto example is questionable. Krypto is a character whose limits have not been fully explored, also taking into account that Krypto was based off of the Pre-Crisis version, which would explain his ability to penetrate Superboy Prime's skin.

Originally posted by Sirius77
As far as the bloody mouth theory goes, he could have just bitten his own tongue from the impact of the punch, after all it stands to reason that he would not be invulnerable to his own teeth.

What about the part about being knocked around?
Plus, I think when you bite your own toungue, it's not very easy to talk, right after.
Originally posted by Sirius77
The Krypto example is questionable. Krypto is a character whose limits have not been fully explored, also taking into account that Krypto was based off of the Pre-Crisis version, which would explain his ability to penetrate Superboy Prime's skin.
He still bit him.

Originally posted by bigbran
What about the part about being knocked around?
Plus, I think when you bite your own toungue, it's not very easy to talk, right after.
He still bit him.

Your not automatically struck mute because you bite your tongue, and even if it was that bad, you forgot about Superman's healing factor. And if Superman has a healing factor that powerful, then Superboy-Prime has an even better one. So it makes sense that he would be able to talk so quickly after biting his tongue so hard, it may have not been completely healed, but it was close I'm sure.

I never said that he didn't bite him, my statement was in favor of the fact that he did bite him and why he was able to do so.

People please, those GL's got their asses kicked . Accept it. Full potential is NEVER used in comics , otherwise animal man and vixen would be killing People with ease and Aquman would own the x-men with a click of his fingers.

If SBP is in the MU, he would be a tool being manipulated by Zemo. The GL's were DUMBED down in IC to make SBP seem formidable.

Originally posted by Sirius77
That was Panthera's blood, because just in case you forgot, he demolished her face. I don't know if you know this or not, but when someones head explodes from blunt force trauma (expecially from a reality warping fist) there tends to be blood splatter.

There is no chance that that is somone else's blood!

Originally posted by bigbran
I think when you bite your own toungue, it's not very easy to talk, right after.

And with that much blood.... he'd have to have bitten his tongue clean off

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Originally posted by bigbran
What about the part about being knocked around?
Plus, I think when you bite your own toungue, it's not very easy to talk, right after.

Being 'Knocked around' Hardly equates to anything. When a character who can potentially lifts mountains strikes a being weighing less than 200lbs its not hard to belive there will be a little movement. The point is there is no way that Conner is as strong as Black Adam, and his punches did next to nothing. Based on the assumption that Adam is equal in strength to Billy (Who i beilive to be stronger to both thor and BRB), its not hard to see why i think Thor and Bill would be littel more than 'Cannon fodder' to SBP. Also one strike from a person with Primes strength, is going to seriously mess up Thor, who has yet show he has Conners durability.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Being 'Knocked around' Hardly equates to anything. When a character who can potentially lifts mountains strikes a being weighing less than 200lbs its not hard to belive there will be a little movement. The point is there is no way that Conner is as strong as Black Adam, and his punches did next to nothing. Based on the assumption that Adam is equal in strength to Billy (Who i beilive to be stronger to both thor and BRB), its not hard to see why i think Thor and Bill would be littel more than 'Cannon fodder' to SBP. Also one strike from a person with Primes strength, is going to seriously mess up Thor, who has yet show he has Conners durability.
Did you just say thor doesn't have conners durabilityjawdrop

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Based on the assumption that Adam is equal in strength to Billy (Who i beilive to be stronger to both thor and BRB),

A lot of people don't agree with your belief, I haven't seen any Cap Marvel/BA feats that would put them above Thor/BRB