Originally posted by hank_mccoy
i think he has a better chance to beat wolverine and sabretooth due to the fact that he is faster and more agile then them and he is stronger then them , now spider-man got strength speed and agility over beast, beast wouldn't be able to do anything to spider-man
Beast is more agile then Wolverine and Sabretooth... maybe. Wolverine has effectively replaced both Beast (twice) and Nightcrawler while wearing disguises fooling onlookers into believe he was them with his speed and agility. But that is besides the point. Wolverine and to a greater extent Sabretooth could sit there and take Beasts best attacks for hours, days even, with out mounting an offensive and still be freash enough to beat him in combat. The could beat Beast in a battle of attrition but literally doing nothing until Beast passed out, if they decided to form any sort of offensive they would take Beast with a round one knock out.
i will put it up for everyone again , heres the right gauntlet
1.kraven
2.bain
3.scorpion
4.wolverine
5.sabretooth
6.spider-man
7.colossus
8.the thing
9.hercules
10.classic juggernaut
with prep time and planing every fight beast could take the gauntlet he is very smart he can plan some way
in a straight up fight he will get to 6 and lose to spider-man , it will be hard for him to go against sabretooth because sabretooth is a real brute machine but i will give it to beast
OK. Now this is from the issue that hank_mccoy is talking about. Now I will admit that Beast DOES get some good shots in against Sabretooth, but he doesn't win. And he DAMN SURE doesn't 'overpower' him. Take a look...
Then Sabretooth managed to get away, and the chase continued. A few pages later he has Cyke on the ropes, and Beast jumps in again...
Now unless I'm mistaken, these are ALL the pages with them together. So as I said, Beast DID get some good shots in, but he didn't pull solo win by any stretch of the imagination.
Now Hank, I'm with you that Beast IS underrated around here. And I wouldn't put it past him to be able to pull, maybe two or three wins out of 10(probably two) against the likes of Wolverine, but there's NO WAY he could take the majority. Beast is to Wolverine, what Thing is Hulk. Good enough to hang for a bit, get some good shots in, and maybe pull the occasional upset, but he just doesn't have what it takes win more often than not.
Originally posted by capt it up
dude ur so full of it its amazing.in astonishing x-men he was able fight a holding back wolverine for a little while that was it and then emma broke the fight up.
Hey, I'm a little out of it at the moment. Would you mind pointing out to me in these scans
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5058/max0042vn8.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1493/max0046ae9.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/508/max0048nw9.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1661/max0050wd9.jpg
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8329/max0052kc9.jpg
where Wolverine was holding back? 😕
Originally posted by darthgoober
OK. Now this is from the issue that hank_mccoy is talking about. Now I will admit that Beast DOES get some good shots in against Sabretooth, but he doesn't win. And he DAMN SURE doesn't 'overpower' him. Take a look...
Then Sabretooth managed to get away, and the chase continued. A few pages later he has Cyke on the ropes, and Beast jumps in again...Now unless I'm mistaken, these are ALL the pages with them together. So as I said, Beast DID get some good shots in, but he didn't pull solo win by any stretch of the imagination.
Now Hank, I'm with you that Beast IS underrated around here. And I wouldn't put it past him to be able to pull, maybe two or three wins out of 10(probably two) against the likes of Wolverine, but there's NO WAY he could take the majority. Beast is to Wolverine, what Thing is Hulk. Good enough to hang for a bit, get some good shots in, and maybe pull the occasional upset, but he just doesn't have what it takes win more often than not.
Damn. Beast pretty much humiliated Sabretooth there for the most part.
Did anyone else notice, too, how confident Beast seemed? Like he knew that he was able to handle Creed? And then he was able to pretty easily handle him. That's the kind of Beast I'm talking about here. That's how he should be.
Bring that Beast back. 😬
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Hey, I'm a little out of it at the moment. Would you mind pointing out to me in these scans
Originally posted by Metalmanx
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/508/max0048nw9.jpg
Originally posted by Metalmanx
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1661/max0050wd9.jpg
Originally posted by Metalmanx
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8329/max0052kc9.jpg
Originally posted by Metalmanx
where Wolverine was holding back? 😕
This hardly matter any ways since wolverine would beat beast no question
Originally posted by capt it up
Let see wolverines claws are in an he attempting to grabb beast. How is that not holding back?Lets see. Look at the first part. Wolverine hands are at an angle that if he wants to of cut beast head in two he could of. Yet he did not that sounds like holding back to me.
Lets see wolverine nocks beast through a door. If Logan was fight for real he could have simply stabbed beast instead.
Look see how wolverine grabbing beast through? I fwolverien was fight for rela he was of slit beast through instead
Look up.
This hardly matter any ways since wolverine would beat beast no question
My God, man.
Forgetting the first scan (even though the SUPER-FAST Wolverine was caught off guard), there was no holding back.
"Lets see. Look at the first part. Wolverine hands are at an angle that if he wants to of cut beast head in two he could of. Yet he did not that sounds like holding back to me."
-You know why Wolverine's hands were at an angle? Cuz Beast dodged his attack. It's what he does. Why would Beast purposely run into Wolvie's claws? 😕
"Lets see wolverine nocks beast through a door. If Logan was fight for real he could have simply stabbed beast instead."
-Yes. I see Wolvie knocking Beast through the wall. What I don't see, however, is Wolverine being close enough or even in the right angle with the right leverage in order to stab Beast. Beast clearly knew what he was doing when he was kicked through the door. He saw Wolverine right behind him and manuevered his body and his feet in a particular way to avoid the attack then...
"Look see how wolverine grabbing beast through? I fwolverien was fight for rela he was of slit beast through instead"
-...Used his skill to pretty cleanly counter-attack Wolverine. I mean, it's pretty obvious. He used his feet to grab the ceiling, thus swinging up, avoiding the claws, and putting a hurting on Wolverine all in the same process. If you deny that, we're clearly not reading the same comic. He then had Wolverine in such a way so that Wolverine could not use his claws against him. I mean, that seems pretty clear to me, and I don't see what the problem is on your side.
The fight was very even, with no side looking better than the other. Wolverine got some hits in, Beast got some hits in, all about the samd degree of damage, too.
You can't always argue the "Wolverine was holding back" idea everytime. Does he hold bacl sometimes? Yes. Was he doing it there (with his claws unsheathed, CLEARLY trying to stab Beast in some of the scans) against Beast? No.
