Originally posted by SoljerWolverine is arguably a better fighter than anyone else on this list.
....Taskmaster learned Deadpool's entire style in three panels.
Not to mention, Wolverine's skilled, but do you really think he's superior to the combined style of:
Anaconda
Ant-Man (Scott Lang)
Batman (Bruce Wayne)
Batroc
Beast (Hank McCoy)
Black Widow (Natasha)
Blizzard (Donald Gil)
Boomerang
Bushwacker
Blacklash
Black Knight (Dane)
Black Panther (T'Challa)
Captain America (Steve)
Cat
Conquest
Daredevil (Matt Murddock)
Deadpool
Diamondback (Rachel)
Eel (Edward Lavell)
Elektra
Falcon (Sam Wilson)
Fatale
Firestar
Goliath (Clint Barton)
Hawkeye (Clint Barton)
Headhunter
Hulk (Bruce Banner)
Huntress (DC)
Iron Fist (Daniel Rand)
Jack O' Lantern
Justice (Vance Astrovik)
Libra (DC)
MACH-IV
Machete
Mister X
Moon Knight
Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers)
Nomad (Jack Monroe)
Oddball
Photon (Genis)
Porcupine
Puma
Punisher (Frank Castle)
Quicksilver
Razorfist
Ringer
Saguri
Scarlet Witch
Shatterhead
She-Hulk
Shockwave
Silverclaw
Silver Samurai
Siren
Speed Demon
Spider-Man (Peter Parker)
Stiltman
Swordsman (Jacques)
Thing (Ben Grimm)
Thor (Thor Odinson)
Toad
Tigra
Trapster
Triathlon
Tumbler
U.S.Agent
Vision
Whiplash II
Whirlwind
Wolverine (James Howlett)
Wonder Man
Yellowjacket (Hank Pym)
Zaran?
Originally posted by Soljer
Meh; I argue for the sake of arguing. Notice I never said Taskmaster would win 10/10 or anything. I think my original guess was 4-6/10. A slight majority in either direction.Really, people keep focusing on Taskmaster's skills - but look at his arsenal.
Captain America's Shield
Spiderman's webs
Wolverine's Claws
Daredevil's billy club
Silver Samurai's Katana
PLUS
All of the above-mentioned's skills (in addition to Deadpool's, Elektra's and others'😉AND we have seen them exhibit similar reflexes - both hanging with people like Spiderman and catching bullets.
Not to mention the fact that, as bone claws, there is nothing stopping the Taskmaster from dismembering Logan. It may be hard to tax that healing factor normally, but I figure quartering logan a few times might work.
And yes; both characters have low showings, true. But no one wants to bring up Wolverine getting knocked around by a deer, KO'd with a single bullet, or getting punked by Daredevil/Black Panther/Etc.
Call those times PIS if you wish (I do, in some of the above cases), but at the very least Wolverine doesn't have the Villain-factor working against him. Taskmaster does.
Taskmaster is FAR from being 'out of logan's league' or any of the such. Simply, this is a rather good fight. I honestly believe it could go either way.
Great post. 👆
Originally posted by riceroost
If Taskmaster has Batman's fighting skills from a crossover than Wolverine cutting Thanos with his bone claws, beating up Lobo in 3 panels, and KOing Deathstroke with a single punch is now Official.
Most crossovers aren't canon... someone (Whirly I think) tried to prove that the Avengers/JLA one was... can't remember how that turned out
Originally posted by capt it up
most of those people on the list are nto skileld fighters/ He also has to keep up with the skills he posses or he loses them. also ar eyou forggeting he only has bits and pieces of there styles. You act as if he knows ever perosn entire style. hell just becuase he onces defeat DP does not mean squawt.did it say he learned deadpools entire style?
also he has such limited knowledge of logan.
what he gunan do if logan goes beserker? it a state of being not a fighting style so there no coping it.
not to mention logan has the knowledge of ogun who lived a 1000 years and stole many peoples styles over the years.
Err...he does know the full styles of the people he mimics. He was able to mimic and counter all of Deadpool's moves without seeing them previously. He watched three panels of Deadpool and had his style down.
You don't have to believe it, but it's true. Taskmaster is a FAR more skilled martial artist/fighter than Wolverine. Wolvie's low-level superhuman attributes make up for it. This is a very close fight.
With all of his versatility and the fact that Wolverine is now bone-clawed, however, I give the very slight advantage to Taskmaster.
Originally posted by capt it up
Didn’t Elektra kick his ass? Not to mention Logan knows some of Elektras moves as well.Last time I checked Mister x kicked taskmaster ass.
Logan knows silver samurai’s style even better then taskmaster
He only knows bits and pieces of it and thor’s mainly a brawler.
This has never been proven. The only evidence that suggest he might know some of logans moves is based off a deadpool comic were some one says taskmaster would pay a lot of money for this video and they only show two panels of the video. Logans just fighting low end hydra agents not like he wiast skill on them.
He does not know his whole style again just bits and pieces.
No going berserker works against ever one. Taskmaster can not copy a stated of mind. A berserker is born a berserker you can not make your self to be one.
also it not fighting skills that wins this match it durability
Didn't Elektra kick Logan's ass?
Last time I checked, Mr. X kicked Logan's ass, too.
If I remember correctly (and I do), Silver Samurai basically beat Wolverine and would've killed him were it not for Logan's adamantium skeleton.
Thor's a pretty good fighter actually. It only makes sense that he would be highly proficcient in Asgardian martial arts. Something I don't think Logan's ever had the joy of facing before.
Now you're just making assumptions. You're not Wolverine (I know it's crazy to you, but it's true). You don't know how much of his skill he was using on the Hydra soldiers. For all you know (unless he specifically stated it), he could've been using all of his skill against them. What with their severe outnumbering and all.
Tasky doesn't need to be able to read Logan's beserker rage. He just counters it with superior martial arts and fighting ability. One doesn't need to be in a beserker rage to fight against a beserker rage. 🙄
And now this one: "also it not fighting skills that wins this match it durability". Where is this argument when Wolverine goes against Hulk? Or when he goes against the Thing? Or when Cap goes against Spider-Man? Both Hulk and Spider-Man are FAR SUPERIOR in durability compared to their opponents. I'll remember that next time you say Wolverine can beat Hulk. It's the durability that wins the match.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Quicksilver (even classic) was faster than Speed Demon to my knowledge. 😬And how exactly did Wolverine beat Speed Demon, by the way? I'm curious what the writers came up with for that one.
which is no way near speed demond.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
DAnd now this one: "also it not fighting skills that wins this match it durability". Where is this argument when Wolverine goes against Hulk? Or when he goes against the Thing? Or when Cap goes against Spider-Man? Both Hulk and Spider-Man are FAR SUPERIOR in durability compared to their opponents. I'll remember that next time you say Wolverine can beat Hulk. It's the durability that wins the match.
(The rest of your post is sound and i agree, i will not address taht part,)
Heres why i dont think those are neccessairily fair compairisons.
Because of the nature of wolverines primary melee weapon its hard to compare the duarbility speciffics of this match versus per say, Hulk Vs WOlverine. Clearly, Hulk has a much better chance of surviveing a strike from Wolverines weapons than Taskmaster does. Even in the instance of Cap versus WOlverine because the fact that although minor, Cap still has the SSSyrum, thing. I think when people are compareing durability in this speciffic instance, aside from fautege, they are also addressing ability to endure damage taken (atleast thats what i am saying when i reffer to this coming down to durability)
Everyone you pertty much listed has an entirely different spectrum of durablity than Taskmaster does, which is just plain human. Well, human in comic book terms** anyways, regardless, I agree with the rest of your post.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Didn't Elektra kick Logan's ass?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Last time I checked, Mr. X kicked Logan's ass, too.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
If I remember correctly (and I do), Silver Samurai basically beat Wolverine and would've killed him were it not for Logan's adamantium skeleton.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Thor's a pretty good fighter actually. It only makes sense that he would be highly proficcient in Asgardian martial arts.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Something I don't think Logan's ever had the joy of facing before.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Now you're just making assumptions. You're not Wolverine (I know it's crazy to you, but it's true).
Originally posted by Metalmanx
You don't know how much of his skill he was using on the Hydra soldiers. For all you know (unless he specifically stated it), he could've been using all of his skill against them. What with their severe outnumbering and all.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Tasky doesn't need to be able to read Logan's beserker rage. He just counters it with superior martial arts and fighting ability. One doesn't need to be in a beserker rage to fight against a beserker rage. 🙄 .
Originally posted by Metalmanx
And now this one: "also it not fighting skills that wins this match it durability". Where is this argument when Wolverine goes against Hulk? Or when he goes against the Thing? Or when Cap goes against Spider-Man? Both Hulk and Spider-Man are FAR SUPERIOR in durability compared to their opponents. I'll remember that next time you say Wolverine can beat Hulk. It's the durability that wins the match.
Hulk on the other hand has no skills. So it is a huge disadvantage for him, bbut still hulk would win.
Spiderman is an ok fight but next to capt he a chump in the skill department so it comes in real handy well fighting him
Originally posted by capt it up
actauly classic quick silver onyl ran about 250 miles per hour.which is no way near speed demond.
How "Classic" are you talking? When he was first introduced? 🙄
Anyway, that's almost as bad as Wolverine killing Northstar. Someone with SUPER-SPEED AND SUPERHUMAN REFLEXES (FAR GREATER THAN WOLVERINE'S) should never be hit by a damn elbow in their path!
But who am I kidding? I'm sure you think Wolverine can easily react as fast or faster than Quicksilver, Speed Demon, or Northstar. 😐
I duno
IN pure h2h, I think taskmaster is going to lose more often than not. Simply because taskmasters mistakes are going to cost him ALOT more than logans mistakes. If logan messes up and gets stabbed/punched/roundhoused, perhaps a breif stun (even breiffer in this mode seeing his regen is much better) but hes going to keep going. If taskmaster gets punched/swept and most notabely, stabbed, hes in serious trouble. Well maybe not SERIOUS trouble, but hes in ALOT more trouble than logan would be in the same scenario.
Things that logan can easily heal from, Taskmaster is going to be crippled and at a severe handicap because of. Tm's best bet would to be to use his versatility to his advantage here and most importantly his range. And his defense. I know taskmaster is a very good tactician and its definately not absurd to think he wouldent realize this right off the bat. Which is why im still iffy on who would take a majority. Its hard to say if wolverine could effectively persue and scrape Taskmaster before TM can perhaps cause logan to make a mistake that will end up getting him his head lopped off.
But i mean, to be honest, Logan is atleast ON PAR with alot of the people TM has mastered, but then again its not like TM is going to go through EVERY single style he's ever learned when fighitng logan becuase its both time consumeing and tireing, and innefective. Not only that, im sure some of the people he's memorized have very similar styles.
TM is going to have to put his best best best, VERY best foot foward in this fight with logan, and for that reason i cant convince myself that TM can take a slight majority in this one. BAHHSDLKF
good fight
duno who wins