Odin vs. the Anti - Monitor

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The lvl under skyfather is herald LvL. How many Heralds can do what PC superman could do? PC Superman would give Tyrant a good fight. And Tyrant for damn sure is skyfather top tier. You just refuse to admit that PC kryptonians can give anyone Under Galactus a good fight. Which is what I said. ALL this other bs that your trying to do has nothing to do with the fact that someone made a boo boo and said I dindt' knwo what I was talking about. ANd I do. PC kryptonians can give anyone under big G a good fight. I'm done.

I think it's extremely unpopular opinions such as this which is why every one seems to disagree with you.

Originally posted by Accel
Sure, PC Superman can give any herald a ood fight, but what you're sorely mistake about is their class system. Sky-Father is much more than just a level above Herald level. There is a HUGE difference between the two.

I think it's extremely unpopular opinions such as this which is why every one seems to disagree with you.

Actually there is a big difference in Herald lvl and ODIN skyfather lvl. Thanos is beyond herald lvl. But still close enough to heralds to give them a good chance to fight him. Thanos is low tier sky father lvl. People so readily make Odin the number one sky father, and then turn around and use him as the base for skyfather all in the same breath. that can't work like that. And PC superman can beat ANY herald one on one before the fight begins good. Superman PC is easily as powerful as Thanos if not more so. And Thanos is a sky father lvl being. Period.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually there is a big difference in Herald lvl and ODIN skyfather lvl. Thanos is beyond herald lvl. But still close enough to heralds to give them a good chance to fight him. Thanos is low tier sky father lvl. People so readily make Odin the number one sky father, and then turn around and use him as the base for skyfather all in the same breath. that can't work like that. And PC superman can beat ANY herald one on one before the fight begins good. Superman PC is easily as powerful as Thanos if not more so. And Thanos is a sky father lvl being. Period.

All in all, PC Superman just showed wacky abilities like every one else. Nothing to put him at Sky-Father level.

Originally posted by Accel
Thanos is somewhere inbetween. He takes down heralds easily and even though he can get Sky-Fathers to notice him, they don't consider him too much a threat.

All in all, PC Superman just showed wacky abilities like every one else. Nothing to put him at Sky-Father level.

Wacky? It doesn't matter how you summate it. He could still move time and punch threw dimensions. This is all power beyond herald lvl. The next step up is sky father. Thanos is a sky father lvl being. every one on this board has said so. he isn't ODIN lvl. but you dont' have to be odin lvl to be sky father. and even thanos can give a ODIN a good fight. anyone who can knock down galactus can give odin at least a good fight. which means that PC superman is in that powerlvl somewhere. he for sure is alot more powerful than thanos. so yeah, PC Superman can give anyone under BIG G a good fight. My statement stands and it's not stupid. Period.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wacky? It doesn't matter how you summate it. He could still move time and punch threw dimensions. This is all power beyond herald lvl. The next step up is sky father. Thanos is a sky father lvl being. every one on this board has said so. he isn't ODIN lvl. but you dont' have to be odin lvl to be sky father. and even thanos can give a ODIN a good fight. anyone who can knock down galactus can give odin at least a good fight. which means that PC superman is in that powerlvl somewhere. he for sure is alot more powerful than thanos. so yeah, PC Superman can give anyone under BIG G a good fight. My statement stands and it's not stupid. Period.

Punching through time is a nice obscure feat, but not out of the range for standard top-tiers. Thor and Hercules once punched through an entire universe. Hulk punched through a time storm. Sasquatch punched through reality.

Many people have feats at Sky-Father level. None of them are around Sky-Father either.

Originally posted by Accel
Many would believe Odin wasn't even trying when he fought Thanos as he didn't seem to go all out against him.

Punching through time is a nice obscure feat, but not out of the range for standard top-tiers. Thor and Hercules once punched through an entire universe. Hulk punched through a time storm. Sasquatch punched through reality. None of them are around Sky-Father either.

Are you serious? Thor's weapon is a sky father weapon. Immortal Herc has skyfather lvl strength. Your trying to down play the fact that my statement was not stupid. PC krytonians can infact give ANYONE under BIG G a good fight. And if you take away magic out of the equation and go purely on power, it's going to be even harder to beat them. You can say what you want to say, but Thanos is a sky father being, and He won't be able to beat PC Superman. And Thanos was able to knock big g down. So ANYONE under big G would have a problem on thier hands with PC Krytonians. No way to get around that. No matter how you try to "wackey' thier feats, or Compare others who have done something to similiar maybe once or twice. NONE OF THEM have done it as often as the PC krytonians, with all of their PC powers combined. SOmeone may have punched reality. Good for them. Have they punched reality, AND sneezed away solar systems, And been able to race thru time, AND been able to move so fast as to pass thru millions of universes in seconds? It's the multitude of high tier powers and the multiple high end showings that put PC krytonians well above herald lvl.

Herc has top-tier strength, not Sky-Father. This is one of those times where you start sprouting nonsensical stuff that casue every one to debate with you.

Thanos being Sky-Father is highly debatable at best, since he has problems enough with top-tiers. Like I said, a wide range of wacky showings doesn't equate to Sky-Father.

For instance, Hulk has clapped away a cosmos, bent light and energy with his bare hands, lit up a universe with a punch, punched through a timestorm,and even took blasts from the Celestial order. Do any of these make sense? No. They're just wacky showings that prove he's strong, but don't mean any thing if you put him up against a Sky-Father.

PC Superman is above herald level. Good for him. But that doesn't automatically put him on Sky-Father level.

Originally posted by Accel
Herc has top-tier strength, not Sky-Father. This is one of those times where you start sprouting nonsensical stuff that casue every one to debate with you.

Thanos being Sky-Father is highly debatable at best, since he has problems enough with top-tiers. Like I said, a wide range of wacky showings doesn't equate to Sky-Father.

For instance, Hulk has clapped away a cosmos, bent light and energy with his bare hands, lit up a universe with a punch, punched through a timestorm,and even took blasts from the Celestial order. Do any of these make sense? No. They're just wacky showings that prove he's strong, but don't mean any thing if you put him up against a Sky-Father.

PC Superman is above herald level. Good for him. But that doesn't automatically put him on Sky-Father level.

What lvl does it put him on then? Cuz Thanos for damn sure is a low lvl Sky Father. And he isn't more powerful than PC Supers. Thanos certainly is sky father lvl in strength. are you saying his strength far suprasses immortal hercs? And your hulk examples dont' mount to a hill of beans. The hulk is not consistantly shown to be as fast, durable, or powerful as a PC krytonian. When he has thier speed, time travel ability, ability to cross multiverses, and more, then he'll be able to go up against a sky father lvl being.

Also, Top tier heroes tend to have a sky father lvl power or two. Thor has sky father lvl strength and his hammer. He doesn't have all the other powers of most sky fathers. Superman has Sky father lvl durability and strength. he doesn't have thier other powers. Flash has sky father lvl speed. you dont' have to be as strong as Odin to have a power or two that is sky father lvl. Hell WW has 4 sky father weapons. And her strength is connected to Geae. Who's a skyfather being of the highest order. Doesn't make WW sky father lvl. What makes PC kryptonians able to figth anyone under Big G is thier insane amount of powers and the level at wich they are used.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What lvl does it put him on then? Cuz Thanos for damn sure is a low lvl Sky Father. And he isn't more powerful than PC Supers. Thanos certainly is sky father lvl in strength. are you saying his strength far suprasses immortal hercs? And your hulk examples dont' mount to a hill of beans. The hulk is not consistantly shown to be as fast, durable, or powerful as a PC krytonian. When he has thier speed, time travel ability, ability to cross multiverses, and more, then he'll be able to go up against a sky father lvl being.

Also, Top tier heroes tend to have a sky father lvl power or two. Thor has sky father lvl strength and his hammer. He doesn't have all the other powers of most sky fathers. Superman has Sky father lvl durability and strength. he doesn't have thier other powers. Flash has sky father lvl speed. you dont' have to be as strong as Odin to have a power or two that is sky father lvl. Hell WW has 4 sky father weapons. And her strength is connected to Geae. Who's a skyfather being of the highest order. Doesn't make WW sky father lvl. What makes PC kryptonians able to figth anyone under Big G is thier insane amount of powers and the level at wich they are used.

The point with Hulk is that every one has wacky feats. PC Superman was pretty damn inconsistent himself. HE had some Sky-Fatheresque feats, but so has every one else. It doesn't make him Sky-Father if he can beat Thanos. Just over herald level.

Originally posted by Accel
I don't know where this notion came from that Thanos was Sky-Father. Sy-Fathers make Thanos their ***** when they get bored of him.

The point with Hulk is that every one has wacky feats. PC Superman was pretty damn inconsistent himself. HE had some Sky-Fatheresque feats, but so has every one else. It doesn't make him Sky-Father if he can beat Thanos. Just over herald level.

Thanos is a sky father. it's been said on this forum many times. How else can he even get rated at DS lvl when DS is most certainly at LEAST sky father lvl if not more. And the point is that the PC krytonians have multiple insane feats in multiple directions. all of the hulk's feats have to do with strength. PC krytonian's feats have to do with strength, speed, time travel, dimension healing, crossing multiverses, surviving insane dmg and more. You just won't relent. it doesn't matter. my statement still stands. ANY ONE under BiG G is going to have a hard fight on thier hands with a PC krytonian. Period.

Thanos is no skyfather character. He simply has the cosmic version of Batmans jobber aura.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Thanos is no skyfather character. He simply has the cosmic version of Batmans jobber aura.

Then how come everyone keeps equating him to DS, who is at LEAST high tier sky father. ANd it's been said many times that Thanos is low to mid sky father.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What lvl does it put him on then? Cuz Thanos for damn sure is a low lvl Sky Father. And he isn't more powerful than PC Supers. Thanos certainly is sky father lvl in strength. are you saying his strength far suprasses immortal hercs? And your hulk examples dont' mount to a hill of beans. The hulk is not consistantly shown to be as fast, durable, or powerful as a PC krytonian. When he has thier speed, time travel ability, ability to cross multiverses, and more, then he'll be able to go up against a sky father lvl being.

Also, Top tier heroes tend to have a sky father lvl power or two. Thor has sky father lvl strength and his hammer. He doesn't have all the other powers of most sky fathers. Superman has Sky father lvl durability and strength. he doesn't have thier other powers. Flash has sky father lvl speed. you dont' have to be as strong as Odin to have a power or two that is sky father lvl. Hell WW has 4 sky father weapons. And her strength is connected to Geae. Who's a skyfather being of the highest order. Doesn't make WW sky father lvl. What makes PC kryptonians able to figth anyone under Big G is thier insane amount of powers and the level at wich they are used.

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Originally posted by Endless Mike
Anti - Monitor gets his basic armor but no other tech or resources.

Odin gets his spear but no other weapons.

Who wins?

For the record, Skyfather isn't a level, but a title.

If a small god like Thor, decided to start his own line of godly beings, he'd be called a skyfather.

But Superman can still get in that ass at times.

Does that make Superman skyfather level??

Nope.

There's a wide range of skyfathers in comics, and few are equal.

Skyfather level no more exists than Herald level, since few heralds compare to Surfer.

PC Superman was powerful, but had numerous low showings to offset it.

He wasn't skyfather level.

Cuz if he there was an actual skyfather level and he was on it, and PC Darkseid, a true skyfather beat his ass around the playground 9/10........what does that make PC Darkseid??

Skyfather+++++??

Doesn't work like that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You guys are so funny. You equate Odin as the premier sky father and then every one else must be his lvl to be sky father. there are many other sky fathers who aren't as powerful as Odin or PC superman.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Thanos is no skyfather character. He simply has the cosmic version of Batmans jobber aura.

He does have a Superman jobbber aura.