Originally posted by Enyalus
Where's the train throwing scan? 🙁
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/FF123-09.jpg
That's some foolproof stuff right there.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Agamotto>> other two vishanti memebers>>> shuma-groth>>>> mephisto>>>>Dormammu=Odin( and this has been stated in comic when they were playing cosmic chess, and Odin won)
What the hell? That's ##$# ridiculous list you got there. It's as if you think Agamotto is the Superman of magic.
From what I recall, the Vishanti were weary if not even afraid of confronting Shuma Gorath after their last encounter. Also Dormammu is as powerful as any member of the Vishanti including Agamotto and has been stated by Strange before. Also where you get this idea that Mephisto is above Dormammu is beyond me. If Dormammu's fight with Eternity is PIS, then I don't see why Mephisto's fight with Galactus isn't.
Mephisto would get walked on by Dormammu in a fight, only way he'd win is through trickery and not power. Dormammu draws energy from followers of multiple dimensions he's consumed. Mephisto's got one part of hell. Meph travels back and forth to Earth, nothing really. Dormy shows up in Earth realm and Strange's shits himself. Yeah, Dormy does lose but so has Mephisto. It's Dr. Strange, who both have lost to.
The list goes like this:
Shuma Gorath & Vishanti
Dormammu, Hoggoth, Oshtur, & Agamotto
Odin & Mephisto
I'd give Galactus 6/10 against Dormammu in my opinion tho.
Originally posted by janus77
Galactus wasn't actually taking Agamotto seriously, when he confronted him in his dimension, was he?iirc, he was actually being dismissive of Agamotto and more concerned about making himself heard.
if Galactus wanted to, he could easily have consumed the dimension.
Galactus doesn't take any body serious save Death and Eternity. Galactus is an ignorant, stubborn, pink wearing d!ckhead. That doesn't mean Galactus was more powerful than Agamotto, even Strange commented on Galactus' arrogance toward's Agamotto's power. Seeing as Strange has regular interactions with both character's, his comments are quite evident. Their fight was wrecking dimensions, a high end feat for both, above his fights with Tyrant. Both are around each other's power level.
No denying him consuming Agamotto's realm. But Agamotto's isn't just going to stand around.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Galactus doesn't take any body serious save Death and Eternity. Galactus is an ignorant, stubborn, pink wearing d!ckhead.
i wouldn't go that far in describing him. He knows more about the nature of the cosmos than all non-abstracts. He knew how to locate Magus w/the cosmic cubes (recruiting strange for the express purpose of helping him, still, they all had no clue, save for big G, where magus was), understood what threat thanos w/ig was in "thanos quest" and was the initiator in bringing together the cosmic pantheon for discussion. The only major failing is the hunger story.
G's science is also>>>>reed's and thanos'. so he's certainly intelligent. his knowledge of magic is limited but he is a creature of science; no one would ever fault reed for not knowing much about magic, nor strange for not knowing too much science.
you could also cause agamotto ignorant and stubborn...he had no idea who exactly G was, so he was just as ignorant and stubborn as G in their confrontation.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
No denying him consuming Agamotto's realm. But Agamotto's isn't just going to stand around. [/B]
Originally posted by Tenebrous
[B]i wouldn't go that far in describing him. He knows more about the nature of the cosmos than all non-abstracts. He knew how to locate Magus w/the cosmic cubes (recruiting strange for the express purpose of helping him, still, they all had no clue, save for big G, where magus was), understood what threat thanos w/ig was in "thanos quest" and was the initiator in bringing together the cosmic pantheon for discussion. The only major failing is the hunger story.
Him knowing about it does not mean he doesn't think he's above such things. And from IW, he walking looking for the person responsible for Eternity's comatose so he could kick it's a$s. Big G was also demanding Thanos to give up the IG, as if that were really going to happen. He got his butt whoop and still came back for more. Big G is a hard head but him being so does not mean he's more powerful than Agamotto.
G's science is also>>>>reed's and thanos'. so he's certainly intelligent. his knowledge of magic is limited but he is a creature of science; no one would ever fault reed for not knowing much about magic, nor strange for not knowing too much science.
But that's the thing, he doesn't know magic and was dismissing Agamotto's power due to Agy's choice of taking the form of a caterpillar - it didn't mean he was more powerful than Agy during the confrontation simply because he didn't take Agy seriously.
you could also cause agamotto ignorant and stubborn...he had no idea who exactly G was, so he was just as ignorant and stubborn as G in their confrontation.
True, but their stubbornest towards one another and dismissive attitude in no way meant that either was more powerful than the other and that's my point.
Originally posted by janus77
that's an interesting question, but wasn't he consuming Mephisto's dimension as Mephisto tried to "fight" him? he just sort of "merged" into the dimension and began taking its power into himself.
The only thing I can say in regards to this is I'd see Agy as a more potential threat than Mephisto is. According to Strange, Agy was a threat to Galactus and also basing on feats. The Eye of Agamotto is one of Strange's most potent weapon. For instance, it helped him boost Dormammu's power to hold back the Mindless Ones in their first encounter. But yeah, don't doubt Galactus' ability yet I'd say Agy could fatally wound him if Galactus' is distracted. I say that also because I could see Agy conjuring up other spells like the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak to hold Galactus then proceed to attack Galactus.
