current juggernaut vs ironman&captain america

Originally posted by godking
CLASSIC Juggernaut was put down by Sonics by Nimrod.

Iron can do the same to current Juggernaut

Yes it is true Classic was downed by sonics by Nimrod, However, Nimrod is far beyond Tonys level of tech. And even the sonics that downed Juggs was some type of strange low level frequency.

I doubt this would constitute as common knowledge going by the forum rules, As common knowledge for Juggernaut is his weakness to Telepathy.

However with this being current Juggs, I realize he does not have the same level of durability as he used to, Although he is still leaps and bounds above IM in terms of strength, stamina, and Durability.

That being said, Sonics might work only to harasses or pester Juggernaut, again, this is taking in the fact that Nimrods tech and weaponry is in my opinion beyond what Stark has. (Interesting fight, Stark vs Nimrod).

And Juggernauts not slow either, he is in fact quite limber for somebody of his size, He can leap quite high also, Although he is not on IM level, its not to the point where Stark is just going to Run circles around Juggs. Remember Classic Juggs Tagged Thor without much Trouble, Im sure Current wouldn't have to much Trouble with IM.

Even with all this being Said, Im not saying Jugges takes the majority, its a good fight, between IM and Juggs, Cap gets taken out by a car moving a couple hundred miles per hour thrown by Juggernaut.

IM versatility, vs Juggernauts Raw Power.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Yes it is true Classic was downed by sonics by Nimrod, However, Nimrod is far beyond Tonys level of tech. And even the sonics that downed Juggs was some type of strange low level frequency.

I doubt this would constitute as common knowledge going by the forum rules, As common knowledge for Juggernaut is his weakness to Telepathy.

However with this being current Juggs, I realize he does not have the same level of durability as he used to, Although he is still leaps and bounds above IM in terms of strength, stamina, and Durability.

That being said, Sonics might work only to harasses or pester Juggernaut, again, this is taking in the fact that Nimrods tech and weaponry is in my opinion beyond what Stark has. (Interesting fight, Stark vs Nimrod).

And Juggernauts not slow either, he is in fact quite limber for somebody of his size, He can leap quite high also, Although he is not on IM level, its not to the point where Stark is just going to Run circles around Juggs. Remember Classic Juggs Tagged Thor without much Trouble, Im sure Current wouldn't have to much Trouble with IM.

Even with all this being Said, Im not saying Jugges takes the majority, its a good fight, between IM and Juggs, Cap gets taken out by a car moving a couple hundred miles per hour thrown by Juggernaut.

IM versatility, vs Juggernauts Raw Power.

That's EXACTLY what I'm trying to argue. Thanks, Apollo. 🤘

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Yes it is true Classic was downed by sonics by Nimrod, However, Nimrod is far beyond Tonys level of tech. And even the sonics that downed Juggs was some type of strange low level frequency.

Agreed

Originally posted by Apolloknight
However with this being current Juggs, I realize he does not have the same level of durability as he used to, Although he is still leaps and bounds above IM in terms of strength, stamina, and Durability.

Rubbish, Juggernaut has yet to convincingly show that he is Superior to Sasquatch or Colossus in strength, both of which i consider weaker than Tony, based on battle and lifting feats.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
And Juggernauts not slow either, he is in fact quite limber for somebody of his size, He can leap quite high also, Although he is not on IM level, its not to the point where Stark is just going to Run circles around Juggs. Remember Classic Juggs Tagged Thor without much Trouble, Im sure Current wouldn't have to much Trouble with IM.

Rubbish, Tony is currently considered one of the fastest characters around, (A fact even recognised by the Sentry). He was able to literally speed blitz Cap in a H2H fight, with minimal effort. I've yet to see any effort that suggest that Cain has any where near the agility or speed of Cap.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Agreed

Rubbish, Juggernaut has yet to convincingly show that he is Superior to Sasquatch or Colossus in strength, both of which i consider weaker than Tony, based on battle and lifting feats.

Rubbish, Tony is currently considered one of the fastest characters around, (A fact even recognised by the Sentry). He was able to literally speed blitz Cap in a H2H fight, with minimal effort. I've yet to see any effort that suggest that Cain has any where near the agility or speed of Cap.

Juggernaut is still class 100 in strength. He just doesn't have limitless strength anymore. He's stronger than (or at the very least equal to) Sasquatch in strength. But much more durable than Sassy (though Sassy is more resiliant because of his healing factor).

Both Juggernaut and Sasquatch are stronger than Tony, too.

And no one is arguing that Cain can compete with Cap with in terms of speed and agility. We're just saying that he's not a lumbering oaf. He moves quite quickly for his size and would eventually be able to tag Cap if he were dancing around him. It's not like Cap could cause Cain any harm anyway.

I still want to know exactly what Iron Man is going to do to take Cain down. No one has been able to answer this yet.