Originally posted by Inhuman
What IQ do you think cosmics posses. like thanos, darkseid, silver surfer, granmaster, a watcher, and many others?
As smart as a human is he will have his limit even if the human limit is 1050. There are cosmics who have no limits or far more capacity than a human brain.
That ususally isnt they key to victory some of the time.
Silver Surfer doesn't posses that kind of IQ.
Oh, and Batman 1 Million is smarter than Reed and Doom combined. That's all I'm saying. 🙂
Originally posted by batdude123
He stole souls, was in charge of an entire planet by himself (yeah, he was able to handle the planet by himself w/o any help), was incharge of the JLA 1 Million prison which housed some of the worst villains in the entire galaxy (they trusted him to do it all by himself w/o any help, again).
And Reed has saved the Universe and the Multi-verse in Marvel.
lil ol' Reed.
Originally posted by batdude123
His tech made Reed's look obsolete,
I wouldn't say that so quickly.
Reed has built or invented every device and machine imaginable.
A machine that shrinks you to the Quantum Level to allow access to the Micro-verse
The Microverse was originally one of a number of dimensions accessed via shrinking beyond the limits of normal existence in the Earth dimension. These realms are not actually sub-atomic, as initially thought, but just accessed via the energy released by such shrinking.
Reed built a spacesuit in one day that allowed the Human Torch to travel to ends of the Multi-verse, in search of the UN during the Abraxas arc.
Reed harnessing Big Bang explosions and using them as missiles.
Reed building Canons that momentarily stun the most Powerful character in Marvel.
on and on...
Reed isn't normal though he was created as a human.
In the X Trilogy, it's Reed Richards that replaces Eternity as the Universe.
Originally posted by batdude123
Right right, fair enough. 😛And what I'm saying that if the guy actually took an IQ test on panel from Thanos and Thanos says that this guys IQ dwarfs Thanos' own and then is never to be seen again. (Although, I guess that would count for at least ONE feat 😛). Do you think Reed beats him?
Indeed. How would we know that he couldn't? There are different types of intelligence. Maybe Thanos' superior lacks creativity, or drive, or anything else. Having a 200 IQ doesn't make you the master of everything. I've met people with ridiculous IQ's that don't know how to change their oil. I've met people with ridiculous IQ's that can't set the clock on their VCR(Way back when, 😉 ), and I've met people with ridiculous IQ's that are utter SHITE at math. I wasn't saying the comparisons of IQ was subjective, I'm saying IQ itself is. One little number CANNOT measure the entirety of someone's being. Impossible.
Thanos' superior goes with his higher-than-Thanos IQ and beats around Galactus, some celestials, the In-betweener, outsmarts the Living Tribunal, puts some actual, credible FEATS to his name? Yeah, then he could outprep Reed.
Till then? All we have to go on is a number. A number that is, on the whole, meaningless.
Originally posted by InhumanReeds intelligence allowed him to possess the UN and not only destroy the multiverse, but recreate it, and you cant think that it was pure intelligence as to how Thanos achieved the IG/HOTU can you? also Galactus was never mentioned in your last post 😕
Not in reeds league?
Like Thanos who with his smarts achieved Godhood 3 times, or galactus who is billions of years old? 😕
Originally posted by Mr Master
And Reed has saved the Universe and the Multi-verse in Marvel.lil ol' Reed.
I wouldn't say that so quickly.
Reed has built or invented every device and machine imaginable.
A machine that shrinks you to the Quantum Level to allow access to the Micro-verse
The Microverse was originally one of a number of dimensions accessed via shrinking beyond the limits of normal existence in the Earth dimension. These realms are not actually sub-atomic, as initially thought, but just accessed via the energy released by such shrinking.
Reed built a spacesuit in one day that allowed the Human Torch to travel to ends of the Multi-verse, in search of the UN during the Abraxas arc.
Reed harnessing Big Bang explosions and using them as missiles.
Reed building Canons that momentarily stun the most Powerful character in Marvel.
on and on...
Reed isn't normal though he was created as a human.
In the X Trilogy, it's Reed Richards that replaces Eternity as the Universe.
With a month of prep, however. I'm talking about Batman 1 Million's own normal arsenal. However, if you give Bats 1 Million, he'd outdo Reed by a lot (this is me speculating again, however his IQ makes Reed seem like he's stupid, you have to admit).
Originally posted by Soljer
Indeed. How would we know that he couldn't? There are different types of intelligence. Maybe Thanos' superior lacks creativity, or drive, or anything else. Having a 200 IQ doesn't make you the master of everything. I've met people with ridiculous IQ's that don't know how to change their oil. I've met people with ridiculous IQ's that can't set the clock on their VCR(Way back when, 😉 ), and I've met people with ridiculous IQ's that are utter SHITE at math. I wasn't saying the comparisons of IQ was subjective, I'm saying IQ itself is. One little number CANNOT measure the entirety of someone's being. Impossible.Thanos' superior goes with his higher-than-Thanos IQ and beats around Galactus, some celestials, the In-betweener, outsmarts the Living Tribunal, puts some actual, credible FEATS to his name? Yeah, then he could outprep Reed.
Till then? All we have to go on is a number. A number that is, on the whole, meaningless.
Yes, but then again there is a huge difference between 200 and 1045.
Originally posted by Galan777
Reeds intelligence allowed him to possess the UN and not only destroy the multiverse, but recreate it, and you cant think that it was pure intelligence as to how Thanos achieved the IG/HOTU can you? also Galactus was never mentioned in your last post 😕
I said like thanos, darkseid, silver surfer, granmaster, a watcher, Galactus, Odin and many others? . I edited after but i had said many others 😉
It was Thanos's smarts and cunning that was a major part in him achieving godhood. yes.
He was the one who found out of the "big secret" which was the gems. He outsmarted the elders to poses the IG.
He was smart enough to know to merge witht he HOTU.
He created a galactus hybid 2X as powerful.
ect, ect.
I do think his smart had a BIG part of most of his actions.
Originally posted by batdude123
Yes, but then again there is a huge difference between 200 and 1045.
And? My point still stands, someone with a 170 IQ couldn't change their oil, set their VCR, or do math, yet we have mr. idiot savant over here with a 65 IQ that was taught how to change oil in cars, set a VCR, and has been doing Multivariable differentials in his head to pass the time.
Originally posted by Inhumanand Reed created a device that managed to stun LT....... and intelligence didnt play a part in thanos merging with THOTU, he just jumped into it without knowing what would truly happen to him. Thanos is very smart, but im just not convinced that he is in Reeds league
It was Thanos's smarts and cunning that was a major part in him achieving godhood. yes.
He was the one who found out of the "big secret" which was the gems. He outsmarted the elders to poses the IG.
He was smart enough to know to merge witht he HOTU.
He created a galactus hybid 2X as powerful.
ect, ect.
I do think his smart had a BIG part of most of his actions.
Originally posted by Galan777
and Reed created a device that managed to stun LT.......
and intelligence didnt play a part in thanos merging with THOTU, he just jumped into it without knowing what would truly happen to him.
Thanos is very smart, but im just not convinced that he is in Reeds league
Originally posted by Soljer
And? My point still stands, someone with a 170 IQ couldn't change their oil, set their VCR, or do math, yet we have mr. idiot savant over here with a 65 IQ that was taught how to change oil in cars, set a VCR, and has been doing Multivariable differentials in his head to pass the time.
And IQ of 65 is slightly above mental retardation. I don't think he could be doing those things. And Bats 1 Million was able to study and master subjects in seconds of reading. 😬
And on that subject, the person with an IQ of 170 is obviously more diversified in more areas than the person with an IQ of 65. There's a reason that person has an IQ 105 points above the other guy.
Not to mention, there is a HUGE difference is what you're trying to say here. You can't even think of an analogy for someone with an IQ of 1045 considering it isn't even humanly possible.
Originally posted by batdude123
And IQ of 65 is slightly above mental retardation. I don't think he could be doing those things. And Bats 1 Million was able to study and master subjects in seconds of reading. 😬And on that subject, the person with an IQ of 170 is obviously more diversified in more areas than the person with an IQ of 65. There's a reason that person has an IQ 105 points above the other guy.
Not to mention, there is a HUGE difference is what you're trying to say here. You can't even think of an analogy for someone with an IQ of 1045 considering it isn't even humanly possible.
I'll admit I chose the number '65' out of nowhere, but my sister has worked with the mentally handicapped. She worked with a guy that changed oil for Jiffy Lube, and was a savant. He was also legally retarded. Whatever that threshold may be.
But still, the IQ itself doesn't matter. The smarter guy couldn't do some of the stuff the (much) dumber guy could. How do we know that Thanos' guy could come up with a plot to rule/save the multiverse time and time again? Who is to say that Thanos' guy could sit Galactus on his ass or stun the Living Tribunal? Just because he's smarter than Thanos by virtue of an IQ test? Means nothing!
Originally posted by batdude123
And IQ of 65 is slightly above mental retardation. I don't think he could be doing those things. And Bats 1 Million was able to study and master subjects in seconds of reading. 😬And on that subject, the person with an IQ of 170 is obviously more diversified in more areas than the person with an IQ of 65. There's a reason that person has an IQ 105 points above the other guy.
Not to mention, there is a HUGE difference is what you're trying to say here. You can't even think of an analogy for someone with an IQ of 1045 considering it isn't even humanly possible.
Im sold 😛
Super Batman wins 😄
Originally posted by Soljer
I'll admit I chose the number '65' out of nowhere, but my sister has worked with the mentally handicapped. She worked with a guy that changed oil for Jiffy Lube, and was a savant. He was also legally retarded. Whatever that threshold may be.But still, the IQ itself doesn't matter. The smarter guy couldn't do some of the stuff the (much) dumber guy could. How do we know that Thanos' guy could come up with a plot to rule/save the multiverse time and time again? Who is to say that Thanos' guy could sit Galactus on his ass or stun the Living Tribunal? Just because he's smarter than Thanos by virtue of an IQ test? Means nothing!
Say the guy is specifically smarter in scientifical areas as a place of expertise than Thanos. No other feats however, what then?
Originally posted by InhumanI agree, but we arent comparing Thanos /w/ THOTU to Reed, we are only comparing thier intelligence..... and i would think it takes more intelligence to build something that harms LT, then it would take intelligence to use power that you stole to harm LT...... do you see what im saying?
and thanos absored the LT.
Before you say cause he had the HOTU, yes but reed also had a "device".
Originally posted by Inhumanhe did want the power, but he wasnt sure what would happen once he jumped into THOTU, it could have killed him for all he knew, and i dont consider a thirst for power as intelligence
true. But i think if Thanos was a fool that Thanos wouldnt have had an idea of what he was doing. He knew that that was the powersource and he apraoched it for a reason. even when his fellow comapnions said NO.
He figured out that the powersource had imense power and he wanted it.
Originally posted by InhumanNot based on purely Intelligence feats
IMO Thanos is one of the FEW beings who trumps reed.
