Question to Ex-Christians

Started by Lord Urizen6 pages
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Giving up on whom or what Crazy. I will not ever give up on anyone here, ever.

Bullshit...you gave up on me.

You never answer any of my questions, even when I am sincere. You want to convert me, yet when I bring up challenging questions, you simply refuse to answer.

When you put people on ignore, that automatically means that you gave up on them, regardless.

What's the matter JIA? Is your will not strong enough? You will easily give up on those who wont immediately submit ?

MY SOUL NEEDS SAVING ! 😆

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
MY SOUL NEEDS SAVING ! 😆

We've been over this.

Originally posted by FeceMan
We've been over this.

According to you, I am already saved simply because when I used to be Christian I asked Jesus to enter my life, and I asked to be saved long ago...

According to JIA, I am not saved because:

1) I am bisexual

2) I am no longer a beleiver

3) I am a Child of Satan

4) I am an "Anti-Christ"

5) I refuse to change what I am

6) I refuse to beleive everything he beleives

7) I think the Bible is mostly fiction

SO JIA, if this is so..then why have you given up on me ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
According to you, I am already saved simply because when I used to be Christian I asked Jesus to enter my life, and I asked to be saved long ago...

According to JIA, I am not saved because:

1) I am bisexual

2) I am no longer a beleiver

3) I am a Child of Satan

4) I am an "Anti-Christ"

5) I refuse to change what I am

6) I refuse to beleive everything he beleives

7) I think the Bible is mostly fiction

SO JIA, if this is so..then why have you given up on me ?

I am the same. (Almost)

Originally posted by lord xyz
I am the same. (Almost)

I am the same except I'm not bisexual.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I am the same. (Almost)

Then we can go to Hell TOGETHER ! 😄

OMG RSVP !

Originally posted by lord xyz
I am the same except I'm not bisexual.

You sure ? 😉

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
You sure ? 😉

😆 Yes. I think everyone is bisexual to some degree, but men just don't really "do it" for me 🙂.

Originally posted by Alliance
😆 Yes. I think everyone is bisexual to some degree, but men just don't really "do it" for me 🙂.

I believe the same thing. I thnk bisexuality is the prime orientation, and all of us are just on a different point on the scale.

ála Kinsey without heterosexual nd homosexual extremes.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
According to you, I am already saved simply because when I used to be Christian I asked Jesus to enter my life, and I asked to be saved long ago...

According to JIA, I am not saved because:

1) I am bisexual

2) I am no longer a beleiver

3) I am a Child of Satan

4) I am an "Anti-Christ"

5) I refuse to change what I am

6) I refuse to beleive everything he beleives

7) I think the Bible is mostly fiction

SO JIA, if this is so..then why have you given up on me ?


'Cause he's dumb.

Originally posted by FeceMan
'Cause he's dumb.

But then again he'd say the same about you. As would I.

Originally posted by Alliance
But then again he'd say the same about you. As would I.

I'd suggest you learn to differentiate between alleged stupidity and perceived ignorance and narrow-mindedness.

I certainly believe I can. I agree with you on JIA, you just don't realize that you two are of the same breed.

Originally posted by Alliance
I certainly believe I can. I agree with you on JIA, you just don't realize that you two are of the same breed.

And here I thought that actually addressing points that you raise and answering them thoroughly wasn't being stupid.

Shucks.

Listen, if you don't want to talk to me, then don't. I give you the same courtesies.

This is a "Once saved Always Saved"......So I am ok, but what about the scripture that says.

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Rev. 22:19

There goes the "once saved only saved"..........Hmm

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

"And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18-19

Guess we shall await the plagues.

The believer's salvation is forfeited by rejecting Christ (John 17:12; Hebrews 10:38; 1 Timothy 4:1; 5:12, 15; 1 John 5:16; 2 Peter 2:20; Hebrews 10:26, 27; 6:4-6).

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
According to you, I am already saved simply because when I used to be Christian I asked Jesus to enter my life, and I asked to be saved long ago...

According to JIA, I am not saved because:

1) I am bisexual

2) I am no longer a beleiver

3) I am a Child of Satan

4) I am an "Anti-Christ"

5) I refuse to change what I am

6) I refuse to beleive everything he beleives

7) I think the Bible is mostly fiction

SO JIA, if this is so..then why have you given up on me ?

Similar - though I am not a bisexual, I don't believe in Satan and therefore am not his child nor an Anti-Christ.

And I will change those things that need changing, but my religious beliefs don't need changing, so I wont change myself in that aspect (without some exceptional reason)

Revelation 3:4-5
He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.

1 Corinthians 3:11-15
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

2 Timothy 2:11-13
Here is a trustworthy saying:

If we died with him,
we will also live with him;
if we endure,
we will also reign with him.

If we disown him,
he will also disown us;
if we are faithless,
he will remain faithful,
for he cannot disown himself.

By the way, for those saying that Hebrews works against this belief: the passages used by those against the concept of eternal security are an allusion to the Israelites wandering in the desert.

But I showed scriptures where it was said that people can be blotted out of the book of life.................God changes NOT.

Are there two gods???

Originally posted by debbiejo
But I showed scriptures where it was said that people can be blotted out of the book of life.................God changes NOT.

Are there two gods???


No, there are not two Yahwehs. I don't know why the Scriptures say that; I'll ask at church. However, those refer (or seem to be referring to) one specific event [tampering with the book] that causes one's name to be removed from the Book of Life, not the loss of salvation for not following Christ.

Tentatively, I'll say that everyone has his or her name written in the Book of Life from the beginning of creation, but those who have sinned and not accepted Christ will have their names removed from it.