Anti-Moniter vs Multi-Eternity

Started by Mr Master9 pages
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You have to take into consideration he had to meamn AM at the height of his power or this thread would be lopsided and a curbstomp.

Ahh, but those are the precise forum rules.

You wanna go by the book, telling me about rules, there they are.

Since the thread starter did not specify any more, we must not assume and Know, this is AM at Full power before absorbing Universes.

And even if he had, he still falls short to ME.

AM needed atleast 5 Universes to complete a Multi-verse, he never made it.

ME is, a Multi-verse already.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Again,

AFTER he ABSORBED most of the Multi-verse

Interesting.

So everytime there is a thread with Thanos's name on it, if nothing is specified by the thread starter, we have to assume it's IG or HOTU Thanos (most powerful and best incarnation)?

Everytime I see Spiderman in a vs thread it must Captain Universe Spiderman?

These are the forum rules you say.

The very idea that they are using Anti-Monitor, I'm assuming they mean as we saw him in the Crisis comic, which is after most of the multiverse was gone. We never saw him before that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Barring the Spectre's interference, AM would be as powerful as ME. You guys use Thanos with the HOTU and IG all the time. We never talk about thano's way of making himself loose all the time. So for this battle we can't talk about the spectre stopping the AM. for all intents and purposes, the AM had the power to wipe out ALL of the DCU's multiple universes. Leaving the Spectre out of it, like we leave thano's complete moronic way of making himself lose, the AM had the power to kill the Multiverse. and had absorbed most of it's power.

Yes but the Spectre DID stop him. So he never reached the power level of an ENTIRE multiverse, only nearly. If we we're debating a battle with Magus towards the end of the Infinity Gauntlet, we wouldn't give him the power of the realty gem, just because he was tricked out of getting it, we would still consider him to have a NEARLY complete IG. The same thing goes here. AM at the hight of his power had NEARLY the power of an entire multi verse, Multi Eternity HAS the power of an entire multiverse, and is therefor MORE powerful. And since this is a forum battle not a comic book, he's not going to get a chance to go along absorbing universes to increase his power, because M.E. is going to start fighting right out of the gate. By the same token, if you put AM against DC's equivalent of M.E., she would be able to beat him in a strait up fight(if she actually she actually TRIED to fight back).

And I may be wrong, but didn't AM have to utilize tech to absorb universes(I only have one issue of Crisis, so I may be wrong).

Originally posted by Mr Master
Again,

AFTER he ABSORBED most of the Multi-verse

Interesting.

So everytime there is a thread with Thanos's name on it, if nothing is specified by the thread starter, we have to assume it's IG or HOTU Thanos (most powerful and best incarnation)?

Everytime I see Spiderman in a vs thread it must Captain Universe Spiderman?

These are the forum rules you say.

your trying to be cute but ur not. The Am's power to absorb universes WAS his character. Captain Universe Spiderman is not. That is an outside powersource that he doesn't always have access to. Niether does thanos have access to the IG. Thor has access to the god force at all times even tho it's an outside powersource. so it CAN be used in any battle on these forums.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes but the Spectre DID stop him. So he never reached the power level of an ENTIRE multiverse, only nearly. If we we're debating a battle with Magus towards the end of the Infinity Gauntlet, we wouldn't give him the power of the realty gem, just because he was tricked out of getting it, we would still consider him to have a NEARLY complete IG. The same thing goes here. AM at the hight of his power had NEARLY the power of an entire multi verse, Multi Eternity HAS the power of an entire multiverse, and is therefor MORE powerful. And since this is a forum battle not a comic book, he's not going to get a chance to go along absorbing universes to increase his power, because M.E. is going to start fighting right out of the gate. By the same token, if you put AM against DC's equivalent of M.E., she would be able to beat him in a strait up fight(if she actually she actually TRIED to fight back).

And I may be wrong, but didn't AM have to utilize tech to absorb universes(I only have one issue of Crisis, so I may be wrong).

So from now on, every single battle you guys have thanos wearing the ig in, i'm going to use the fact that he had the parculiar weakness of his that makes him loose. You get what I'm getting at?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Ahh, but those are the precise forum rules.

You wanna go by the book, telling me about rules, there they are.

Since the thread starter did not specify any more, we must not assume and Know, this is AM at Full power before absorbing Universes.

And even if he had, he still falls short to ME.

AM needed atleast 5 Universes to complete a Multi-verse, he never made it.

ME is, a Multi-verse already.

I already explained the stipulations of why he didn't get the last 5, but you probably posted this at the same time. I'll just wait for your reply to it. I like keeping Mr Master updated. 😄

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So from now on, every single battle you guys have thanos wearing the ig in, i'm going to use the fact that he had the parculiar weakness of his that makes him loose. You get what I'm getting at?

Actually, you would have to use the argument that AFTER he beats everyone, he comes up with a way to lose. You have to remember, that he wins first, THEN he comes up with a way to lose. So unless it's at least a two part fight, he still wins.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Actually, you would have to use the argument that AFTER he beats everyone, he comes up with a way to lose. You have to remember, that he wins first, THEN he comes up with a way to lose. So unless it's at least a two part fight, he still wins.

If the outcome is total victory, he looses. And he certainly was tricked by a couple people and lost the IG. But I never use that becuz it's PIS. But what ever you say. Thanos with the IG is still a tard who can't seem to manage to hold onto god hood. AM wins this IF this is the AM at the height of his power unchecked by spectre.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Actually, you would have to use the argument that AFTER he beats everyone, he comes up with a way to lose. You have to remember, that he wins first, THEN he comes up with a way to lose. So unless it's at least a two part fight, he still wins.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If the outcome is total victory, he looses. And he certainly was tricked by a couple people and lost the IG. But I never use that becuz it's PIS. But what ever you say. Thanos with the IG is still a tard who can't seem to manage to hold onto god hood. AM wins this IF this is the AM at the height of his power unchecked by spectre.

This is a dumb arguement, Thanos has nothing to do with this thread, please don't continue it. We were having a great discussion without the pissing contest.

Anti-Monitor in the thread, should be as portrayed in the comic. A multiversal capable wiper. This is how he was portrayed altogether.

Thanos is not, unless we specifically use an comic-arc version such as IG or HOTU. Which people DO use in threads, otherwise- it is regular Thanos.

The end.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
your trying to be cute but ur not. The Am's power to absorb universes WAS his character. Captain Universe Spiderman is not. That is an outside powersource that he doesn't always have access to. Niether does thanos have access to the IG. Thor has access to the god force at all times even tho it's an outside powersource. so it CAN be used in any battle on these forums.

You still have not acknolwedge the main point that was made, and that is at the height of his power, Anti-monitor still fell short of a complete multiverse. Multi-Eternity IS a multi-verse in power. During the battle anti-monitor won't have a chance to go around snacking on universes to power himself up further, and is going toe to toe with the embodiment of a complete multiverse right from the get-go.

Now ladies and gent correct me if i am wrong but isnt the Anti monitors speciality eating universes, so what wise guy pits him against a sentient being full of universes . On that logic AM eats ME, think of it like this superman Vs Redsonman.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If the outcome is total victory, he looses. And he certainly was tricked by a couple people and lost the IG. But I never use that becuz it's PIS. But what ever you say. Thanos with the IG is still a tard who can't seem to manage to hold onto god hood. AM wins this IF this is the AM at the height of his power unchecked by spectre.

If that were the fight, it would have to be specified "AM that was never stopped vs Multi Eternity", but that's not the fight in this thread. You are trying to give AM a theoretical level of power that he was never able to achieve. But he doesn't HAVE that level of power in this thread, at most he has as much power as he possessed at the hight of his power.

If that's the fight you want to debate, then you'll have to go and make another of your spite threads to do it.

Originally posted by Juntai
It was a chain, most dying only as long as it took for the power to wipe across them..... but there was reason for that. It was The Monitor battling him, each seemed to be some sort of representation of their respective realities, Monitor kind of a guardian/representor of the multiverse, and Anti-Monitor being it's perversed opposite for Antimatter.--This is not to be confused with Embodiments, as per Kismet and Eternity.. but their power seemed based on who controlled more of creation.

Once they came into being they battled eachother for a million years on equal footing before they knocked eachother out....Pariah a scientist, probably the greatest in the multiverse, accidentally unleashed anti-matter into his own universe and destroyed it... The Anti-Monitor awoke, and at that moment power also tipped in Anti-Monitor's favor, and Monitor could only slow him, but never stop him. So he began putting everything into motion that would eventually be needed to defeat him.

The only reason he could not destroy the last 5, is because Anti-Monitor at the lowest dregs of his power, built an infinite netherverse inside of himself and pulled what was left of the multiverse into it - which was transfered to The Harbringer upon Monitor's death, as she essentially became him.

Had he not done that, and Spectre not stopped him, Anti-Monitor would have taken the multiverse with ease.

Thanx for the info.

It seems he would have the same bumps on the Marvel road.

There would be an Eternity in every Universe ready to stop him, better yet, an Infinite number of Eternitys roled up into one.

From what you just explained, I don't think he can do it, there are so many characters with in Multi-Eternity that can rearrange Universes, even the Multi-verse itself.

If he's fighting ME, he's taking on the 616 Multi-verse and everything that comes with it.

Jim Jaspers of 616 nearly Re-wrote the Omni-verse.

Wanda's magic is so powerful she ripped a whole through the Omniversal Fabric of Reality, nearly collapsing the Omni-verse.

Galactus and the UN (IF Reed can Remake the Multi-verse)

Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos.

The end.

😆
I know that wasn't your intent but your statement kinda contradicts.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes but the Spectre DID stop him. So he never reached the power level of an ENTIRE multiverse, only nearly. If we we're debating a battle with Magus towards the end of the Infinity Gauntlet, we wouldn't give him the power of the realty gem, just because he was tricked out of getting it, we would still consider him to have a NEARLY complete IG. The same thing goes here. AM at the hight of his power had NEARLY the power of an entire multi verse, Multi Eternity HAS the power of an entire multiverse, and is therefor MORE powerful. And since this is a forum battle not a comic book, he's not going to get a chance to go along absorbing universes to increase his power, because M.E. is going to start fighting right out of the gate.

Very very well put.

Originally posted by Juntai
This is a dumb arguement, Thanos has nothing to do with this thread, please don't continue it. We were having a great discussion without the pissing contest.

Anti-Monitor in the thread, should be as portrayed in the comic. A multiversal capable wiper. This is how he was portrayed altogether.

Thanos is not, unless we specifically use an comic-arc version such as IG or HOTU. Which people DO use in threads, otherwise- it is regular Thanos.

The end.


Hey he's the one who broght up Thanos trying justify giving AM more power than he actually had, I was just pointing out how that wouldn't work.

Originally posted by Kutulu
You still have not acknolwedge the main point that was made, and that is at the height of his power, Anti-monitor still fell short of a complete multiverse. Multi-Eternity IS a multi-verse in power. During the battle anti-monitor won't have a chance to go around snacking on universes to power himself up further, and is going toe to toe with the embodiment of a complete multiverse right from the get-go.
I already explained the stipulations of that. Monitor MOVED the rest of the multiverse so that it wouldn't be wiped- into an infinite Netherverse inside of himself. Anti-Monitor then almost still succeeded and tried to replace the creator altogether, by wiping the multiverse from the dawn of time, and had the power to do it, if not for the Wrath of God, who at the height of his power, is far beyond creation alltogether..

Originally posted by Mr Master
Very very well put.

Thank you. 🙂

Originally posted by Juntai
The very idea that they are using Anti-Monitor, I'm assuming they mean as we saw him in the Crisis comic, which is after most of the multiverse was gone. We never saw him before that.

I didn't know that, from the first issue he had already absorbed the Multi-verse minus 5?

What the heck were the other 11 issues about? 😂

To put it as simply as put, The AM had the power and capability of wiping out the multiverse. He wasn't shown as NOT having the power to do so. he did. He got stopped by the spectre. So it's not theoretical power i'm talking about. He did have the power to wipe the multiverse clean.