Anti-Moniter vs Multi-Eternity

Originally posted by Juntai
Right, but what I'm saying is that there's really no way to benchmark the Marvel Multiverse and the DC Multiverse, only that they are both multiverses. DC's multiverse is weaker than the DCUniverse it was meant to be, but it can't really be said that the Marvel Multiverse is stronger than DC's multiverse, there's no way to support that, nor the other way - and I didn't suggest otherwise.

I think it's just plain clearer, that if the DC multiverse can stop Anti-Monitor, than so can Marvel.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Your right. There's no way to really benchmark the two multiverses. But unless more proof is provided, (universal) Eternity>Anti Monitor(at the height of his power).

And instead of just wiping them at the current time, at the height of his power, he was going remove them from ever existing at all, from the very begining.

Originally posted by Juntai
How so? He had destroyed the infinite universes. Would have wiped the whole multiverse, if the last 5 weren't moved.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Because there exist no proof that universes he destroyed are as powerful as the Marvel 616 Universe. The universes he destroyed were stated to be weaker than they were supposed to be, while Marvel has never stated that it's universes are anything but complete.

Originally posted by Juntai
And instead of just wiping them at the current time, at the height of his power, he was going remove them from ever existing at all, from the very begining.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes but that wouldn't have worked unless he absorbed the life energies of the heroes. He expended to much energy breaching the wall of creation, and didn't have enough left to complete the process. So he couldn't do that on his own.

Either way, I'm sure putting characters in stasis and linking their energy and essence to his, is a feat just as easily repeatable.

Originally posted by Juntai
Right, but there's no way to say that Marvel's is inherently stronger, just because DC's multiverse is weaker than the DCUniverse it was meant to be. We just went through this. There's simply no way to support that.

Originally posted by Juntai
No, but it was the height of his power. That's all I was saying.

Either way, I'm sure putting characters in stasis and linking their energy and essence to his, is a feat just as easily repeatable.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes but DC never referred to the "whole" universe as be anything but a universe. They never said it would be some ultra powerful universe. Just that it would have been a complete universe. So Anti Monitor had the power of a nearly complete universe. Eternity IS a complete universe.

DC had a multiverse.
Marvel has a multiverse.

Just because DC's multiverse became a 'stronger' DCUniverse, there's no way to proove Marvel's multiverse is inherently stronger as a result.

What you're saying relies on the fact that it is.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Why is there going to be a group of heroes standing on the sidelines in a forum battle?

Has it been defined that their isn't?

- FO!!

Originally posted by Juntai
Are we going to keep going in circles?

DC had a multiverse.
Marvel has a multiverse.

Just because DC's multiverse became a 'stronger' DCUniverse, there's no way to proove Marvel's multiverse is inherently stronger as a result.

What you're saying relies on the fact that it is.

Originally posted by Flame On!!
Has it been defined that their isn't?

- FO!!

I have to go to work, but we can pick all this up later.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes but you also have no proof on your side that it wasn't. While I have at least some grounds(in the form of DC's statements) to belive that it was.

Are we going to keep going in circles?

DC had a multiverse.
Marvel has a multiverse.

Just because DC's multiverse became a 'stronger' DCUniverse, there's no way to proove Marvel's multiverse is inherently stronger as a result.

What you're saying relies on the fact that it is.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I have to go to work, but we can pick all this up later.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It also hasn't been defined that Eternity doesn't have possession of the Infinity Gauntlet. So what's your point? If they weren't set in the conditions, then they're not there.

Ok, I figured I'd cover some of this on my lunch break...

Originally posted by Juntai
Why would I need proof it isn't? It's your theory. And indeed it's a theory, and nothing more, since you've no proof of such by your own admission.

But I DO have proof that the universes of the DC multiverse contained less power than a complete universe. And Eternity IS a complete universe(until proof of the contrary is provided). So the Marvel universe WOULD contain more power. What aren't you getting about that? All your bringing to the table here is your desire to keep the companies equal. But in order to show that they are equal, your going to have to come up with something to either show that the Marvel Universe is incomplete also, or the the "whole" universe referred to in COIE was more power than a standard universe.

Thus I stand by my statement, (universal)Eternity>Anti Monitor(at height of his power).

Well, back to work...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok, I figured I'd cover some of this on my lunch break...

But I DO have proof that the universes of the DC multiverse contained less power than a complete universe. And Eternity IS a complete universe(until proof of the contrary is provided). So the Marvel universe WOULD contain more power. What aren't you getting about that? All your bringing to the table here is your desire to keep the companies equal. But in order to show that they are equal, your going to have to come up with something to either show that the Marvel Universe is incomplete also, or the the "whole" universe referred to in COIE was more power than a standard universe.

Thus I stand by my statement, (universal)Eternity>Anti Monitor(at height of his power).

Well, back to work...

Are we going to keep going in circles?

DC had a multiverse.
Marvel has a multiverse.

Just because DC's multiverse became a 'stronger' DCUniverse, there's no way to proove Marvel's multiverse is inherently stronger as a result.

What you're saying relies on the fact that it is.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok, I figured I'd cover some of this on my lunch break...

But I DO have proof that the universes of the DC multiverse contained less power than a complete universe. And Eternity IS a complete universe(until proof of the contrary is provided). So the Marvel universe WOULD contain more power. What aren't you getting about that? All your bringing to the table here is your desire to keep the companies equal. But in order to show that they are equal, your going to have to come up with something to either show that the Marvel Universe is incomplete also, or the the "whole" universe referred to in COIE was more power than a standard universe.

Thus I stand by my statement, (universal)Eternity>Anti Monitor(at height of his power).

I have to agree with Darth.

And it has nothing to do with my Marvel preference.

From the Scans that I read, it's undoubtably true, that the DC Multi-verse COIE, was in fact a Universe spread across creation as smaller or weaker units of itself.

Straight from the On Panel depictions.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have to agree with Darth.

And it has nothing to do with my Marvel preference.

From the Scans that I read, it's undoubtably true, that the DC Multi-verse COIE, was in fact a Universe spread across creation as smaller or weaker units of itself.

Straight from the On Panel depictions.

Whether that's true or not, the DC Multiverse is definitely stronger now.

Here's Post Crisis Captain Atom creating and destroying his own universe with ease.

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