saber battle mace vs njo luke

Started by ESB Vader3 pages

saber battle mace vs njo luke

ok so best dueler of the movies vs best dueler of the EU, mace = shatterpoint and luke = some unknown form, idk how he makes 20 sabers

Luke uses a combination of Djem So and Ataru.

Shatterpoint isen't the name of a Form. It is a technique of the Vapaad Form, wich Mace uses.

I'd say without the Force, and pure lightsaber, Mace takes this.

But after a terribly difficult battle.

Luke uses Djem So like his daddy. Luke's version seems to be more like a type of opposite of Vaapad since he was calm in Unifying Force and the Swarm War. There isn't much differenece between Djem So and Vaapad/Juyo except the fact that Juyo is a lot faster and the user can turn his enemies' powers against him. I wouldn't say Mace is the best duelist. It's kinda a tie between him, Yoda, Annie, and Depa.

However, I believe Luke could take Mace with a lot of difficulty.

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
Luke uses Djem So like his daddy. Luke's version seems to be more like a type of opposite of Vaapad since he was calm in Unifying Force and the Swarm War. There isn't much differenece between Djem So and Vaapad/Juyo except the fact that Juyo is a lot faster and the users can turn his enemies' powers against him. I wouldn't say Mace is the best duelist. It's kinda a tie between him, Yoda, Annie, and Depa.

However, I believe Luke could take Mace with a lot of difficulty.

Luke had a uniquely powerful calmness and control in those books, but only in great part because of the Force.

However, since this is lightsaber only, Luke can't call upon a very great grasp of that kind of control, so Mace wins.

Good points though. 😛

hmm, then how does luke shake his saber to make it look like 20? did he had to use the force to do that because i dont think any jedi or sith could do that without the force.

and i believe this is a hardmatch, luke is very graceful in saber combat as you said sexiest, calm this and that so no use of reflecting "hate"

Originally posted by ESB Vader
hmm, then how does luke shake his saber to make it look like 20? did he had to use the force to do that because i dont think any jedi or sith could do that without the force.

and i believe this is a hardmatch, luke is very graceful in saber combat as you said sexiest, calm this and that so no use of reflecting "hate"

Very true, Its straight up swordsmanship.

And yes, the whirling of the lightsaber to make it look like 20 was, obviously, done with the Force. (The physical ability to generate the kinetic force)

But Mace wouldn't need to use Vapaad to beat Luke.
He could use his mastery of Juyo to win.

Mace takes this, barely.

Luke is above Mace in saber combat. Maybe not by leagues but enough to defeat him in a saber match.

hmm, then how does luke shake his saber to make it look like 20? did he had to use the force to do that because i dont think any jedi or sith could do that without the force.

As I said before, Luke's saber form has elements of Vaapad in it. So, yes, he was using the force. That's just what I've observed. It may not be Djem So mixed Vaapad at all. I just think James was reading Shatterpoint while he writing The Unifying Force, and saw a way to make Luke even more godly.

i need a more clear explanation on vaapad and shatterpoint, i dont know very much about it, so thank you in advance if you want to explain 🙂

Well, I'm not good at explaining things as you may have seen from my previous posts. You should really read Shatterpoint by Matthew Stover. It's the best Star Wars novel you'll ever read apart from the ROTS novel.

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
As I said before, Luke's saber form has elements of Vaapad in it. So, yes, he was using the force. That's just what I've observed. It may not be Djem So mixed Vaapad at all. I just think James was reading Shatterpoint while he writing The Unifying Force, and saw a way to make Luke even more godly.

Luke's Form has no elements of Vapaad in it.
He diden't know it. It died with Mace Windu.

He uses Djem So and Ataru and somtimes combines their attacks together.

Sure, I got a nice HTML on it, hold on a sec...

http://lightsaberguide.darkjedibrotherhood.com/LightsaberGuide.pdf

There we go.

It's not "Official" but is canonical nonetheless.

Enjoy. 😉

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
Well, I'm not good at explaining things as you may have seen from my previous posts. You should really read Shatterpoint by Matthew Stover. It's the best Star Wars novel you'll ever read apart from the ROTS novel.

you may not be good but you are certeinly good enough 🙂

Originally posted by Darth Sexiest
http://lightsaberguide.darkjedibrotherhood.com/LightsaberGuide.pdf

There we go.

It's not "Official" but is canonical nonetheless.

Enjoy. 😉

Sometimes, it's hard to tell the difference between Ataru, Djem So, and Juyo for me. I guess you're right; however, most Ataru use leaping attacks. Luke must have just dropped the leaping parts.

i was just following this:

Jacen Solo described Luke in the Battle of Yuuzhan'tar as a maelstrom of Force energy, a Force storm against which there was no shelter. So calm and focused that his actions were not interrupted by any thought. Luke merged with the Force in a degree which seemed the Jedi Master, physically or as an individual personality, not present on the battlefield anymore. Luke's lightsaber blade was described to look like ten or twenty blades moving at once. The Solo twins were astounded by seeing their uncle in such a state. One should note that the description of Luke's blade work matches the legendary lightsaber combat form Vaapad which was created by Mace Windu.

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
Sometimes, it's hard to tell the difference between Ataru, Djem So, and Juyo for me. I guess you're right; however, most Ataru use leaping attacks. Luke must have just dropped the leaping parts.

i was just following this:

Jacen Solo described Luke in the Battle of Yuuzhan'tar as a maelstrom of Force energy, a Force storm against which there was no shelter. So calm and focused that his actions were not interrupted by any thought. Luke merged with the Force in a degree which seemed the Jedi Master, physically or as an individual personality, not present on the battlefield anymore. Luke's lightsaber blade was described to look like ten or twenty blades moving at once. The Solo twins were astounded by seeing their uncle in such a state. One should note that the description of Luke's blade work matches the legendary lightsaber combat form Vaapad which was created by Mace Windu.

Yup. Good to point out.
But it only looks like it, it isen't actually Vapaad. 😄

I have that book too...

Luke pwns. Now, if this were Clone Wars Cartoon Mace this would be close...

Well, he never said which Luke or Mace.