Metal is alive and well. Punk and hardcore, I have to disagree, namely because pretty much every band that's lumped into those categories have lost sight of what the genres once stood for.
It's a totally different form of music, bastardizing once great genre labels, for the sake of selling their music. Even the last of the great hardcore bands like Hatebreed went the Metal-core route. The lyrics are still the same, and the progression was natural, and the message has never waivered, but the traditional elementso f hardcore music are long gone in todays music.
One thing for sure, hardcore isn't hardcore anymore. Especially with bands like Saosin, Terror, underoath and the like mucking up the place. Same thing goes for punk. It's pretty much all commercialized angst put to music and eyeliner.
The problem with metal is how commercialized and outright cartoonish it gets. I mean this is spinal tap and metalocalypse are so acurate its funny. Hardcore and punk are also in a slump but hopefully if things go as planned and we can get a rehearsal space in the next month, i'll try to do something about it.
Originally posted by The Core
One thing for sure, hardcore isn't hardcore anymore. Especially with bands like Saosin, Terror, underoath and the like mucking up the place. Same thing goes for punk. It's pretty much all commercialized angst put to music and eyeliner.
All of these goddamn emo bands like My Chemical Romance who have the balls to call themselves punk are, indeed, a smear.
Linkin Park is a pop band. There's nothing wrong with pop, because The Beatles were pop, as was Jimi Hendrix at one time. Pop just means popular, and they were by all means, and for good reason. LP's a mutt, and given we're past that stupid "nu-metal" token, they're still a pop band.
Punk and REAL Hip Hop enjoy success underground, where those genres belong. If you're making money, biting the hand that feeds you, by signing a contract, you're more or less a "walking contradiction", which is funny, given that's the title of one of Green Day's songs off of one of the most profitable albums. The world's biggest pop-punk band.
Cines got it. All the lines are getting blurred in punk and hardcore, but metal still has plenty of bands doing the right thing. But i think bands can sign a contract and hold their integrity. sure some bands do try to hard to be "punk" or "metal" (Amen for example, in an article Casey Chaos said after they recorded all the songs for their latest album they took all the catchy songs and scrapped them...morons).
Punk Died in 1983.
What the kids of today are calling Punk isnt Punk at all.
Never Mind The Bollocks by THE SEX PISTOLS is a classic album and this cannot be faulted and despite the image that Mclaren created there are some f****ng outstanding tunes on there that sound fresh today.
Punk came along in 76 inspired by THE NEW YORK DOLLS and Iggy Pop ..True The Sex Pistols were part of it ...not the creators... but they were a very important part of Punk in the UK at least as were THE CLASH,SIOUXIE and countless other uk punk bands.
My knowledge of US punk extends to Black Flag,The Ramones and a few others thats about it.....but the PISTOLS were Punk in 76 in the UK and always will be.
Re: Why DO so many People Hate Heavy Metal?
Originally posted by Jack of Blades
I just dont understand it.People odnt like punk ROck too very much(Well i dont listen to it)
Jack, this is just me, though I think I may speak for the majority.....sometimes you can't hear the words, and it tends to sound like noise then. If something doesn't sound melodic, AND you can't hear the words? Puh...not good music. Again, that's just me-though I think a lot of non heavy metal fans feel the same way. 😬
However, what I think might be noise-you make think is harmony....and that's all that really matters.