What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?

Started by Grimm2219 pages
Originally posted by Scoobless
Which was one of the reasons I made this thread in the first place... I've read every Wolverine comic that has come out in the last ten years and I've never seen that ability crop up

I agree ✅

Good point scoob, just because you see things faster dosent mean you are as fast as the object. 😉

Re: What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?

Originally posted by Scoobless

There is a great misconception amongst many KMC members over who exactly can and cannot "dodge bullets"

Characters such as DareDevil, Wolverine, Batman, Captain America, etc, etc... all have managed to fool people into believing that they can "dodge" bullets... this is simply not possible, while yes, they do avoid being hit on a consistent basis, they are not actually dodging bullets, they are merely avoiding the aim of the person firing at them.

High velocity rifle fire can travel at over 3,000 mph (over mach 4) which is obviously way too fast for any non-speedster to avoid if it's on target when fired.

I've even heard people state that "Wolverine (or whoever) dodges lasers all the time" which is even more ludicrous... once again they are only avoiding the aim of the person/machine behind the weapon.

Spider-Man is another character people claim can "dodge" bullets and that he does it more often than any other character "proving" that he can... once again this is not the case... his spider-sense lets him know when he is about to be fired at and his superhuman speed allows him to easily move from that location before the shooter can even pull the trigger

I know this thread is fairly pointless... but I don't care... the growing number of fanboys on the comic forums who constantly state that "(insert name here) can dodge bullets/lasers" is mind-boggling

The characters who actually can "dodge" a bullet after it has been fired include Superman, the Flash, Quicksilver(classic), Speed Demon, etc... basically people who can move and react at the speeds necessary to avoid a projectile travelling anywhere between mach 0.5 to mach 4.5

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/MariaPereyra.shtml
http://www.reloadbench.com/gloss/conv.html

Vamp (from Metal Gear 2) works in that way. He reacts to the actions of the shooters body right before the trigger is pressed.

Funny thing that they went this slightly more realistic route with a guy who walks on water and ressurects himself. 🙂

I posted these in another thread after I was informed that Wolverine can dodge bullets.

Originally posted by Someone who claims that he isn't a fanboy
Logan dodges bullets with ease

1. http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1jh8.jpg
2. http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2yq7.jpg

3. http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3yl9.jpg
4. http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4yp9.jpg

5. http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine12108ap8.jpg
6. http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine12109ga6.jpg

7. http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vfxwolverine39008pp0.jpg

8. http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vfxwolverine39020kx9.jpg

9. http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wpyrate0912pq4.jpg

10. http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine08pyratep10tm8.jpg

11. http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine1620gf2.jpg

12. http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine41015pg5.jpg

13. http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine150page24qc3.jpg

14. http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine150page30vx8.jpg

15. http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine12210cr5.jpg

16. http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine12217ug0.jpg

He can't even dodge cars sometimes:

http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinesquashedbycarsyy5.jpg

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Found it:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6506479

And I realized it was A LOT CLOSER to him than I thought before he actually started to move. Just saying.

So someone with 15x times reflexes of a normal human being should be able to do that?

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Refer C-Master's answer:

"Punisher was shooting at him to be fair.

"His heat. Pumps" (gunshots)
"By the way--in case you were wondering--I can't dodge bullets. I can't outrun bullets, I cant otthink bullets. So, it would seem he wasn't shooting to kill me. He was shooting for me to do something like this. To get away from him, so he could bail.""

In this comic, which I have scans of somewhere, (I think it's Ultimate Team-Up, with Spidey, Punisher and DD) DD HIMSELF admits he cannot dodge bullets.

Therefore, the argument that he can dodge bullets is nonsensical.

Well, it looks as if we are at a crossroads here because hes also stated that he sees the bullets cut through the air which allows for him to twist inbetwen them.

Originally posted by Alfheim
So someone with 15x times reflexes of a normal human being should be able to do that?

They'd need superhuman speed and a spider sense as well (or something similar)

Originally posted by Scoobless
They'd need superhuman speed and a spider sense as well (or something similar)

Yeah his spider sense make him move out of the way before its fired not when its in midflight!

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah his spider sense make him move out of the way before its fired not when its in midflight!

Its not just his spider-sense that moves him. Its his physical speed. His super reflexes help, as do his spider-sense but if he couldn't move so fast then it would all be pointless

Originally posted by marvelprince
Its not just his spider-sense that moves him. Its his physical speed. His super reflexes help, as do his spider-sense but if he couldn't move so fast then it would all be pointless

Yeah, yeah whatever. That bullet was in mid flight he aint dodging it with 15 x reflexes.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah, yeah whatever. That bullet was in mid flight he aint dodging it with 15 x reflexes.

Again, it isn't the reflexes that enable him to dodge. Reflexes allow him to know there is a threat faster and percieve situations better but without the speed necessary to dodge them then you have nothing

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah, yeah whatever. That bullet was in mid flight he aint dodging it with 15 x reflexes.

Actually it's 40 x reflexes. And that's before upgrade.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Actually it's 40 x reflexes. And that's before upgrade.

Well apparently the more official position is 15 times.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well apparently the more official position is 15 times.

What can be more official than Spider-man comicbooks? And it's said there that 40 times, and it was said more than once...

Originally posted by Sam Z
What can be more official than Spider-man comicbooks? And it's said there that 40 times, and it was said more than once...

Yeah I know but some one told me that despite this the more official position is 15 times. *shrug*

http://www.spidervillain.com/SpiderManCovers/Amazing/ASM162/Page1.jpg 😗 , and he can avoid bullets? ❌

Originally posted by Scoobless
I don't think we've been reading the same Wolverine comics:

1. http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1jh8.jpg
2. http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2yq7.jpg

3. http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3yl9.jpg
4. http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4yp9.jpg

5. http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine12108ap8.jpg
6. http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine12109ga6.jpg

7. http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vfxwolverine39008pp0.jpg

8. http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vfxwolverine39020kx9.jpg

9. http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wpyrate0912pq4.jpg

10. http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine08pyratep10tm8.jpg

11. http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine1620gf2.jpg

12. http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine41015pg5.jpg

13. http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine150page24qc3.jpg

14. http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine150page30vx8.jpg

15. http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine12210cr5.jpg

16. http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine12217ug0.jpg

He can't even dodge cars sometimes:

http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinesquashedbycarsyy5.jpg

As funny as DareDevil doing it?

http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinedazedcs8.jpg

🙂

http://www.spidervillain.com/SpiderManCovers/Amazing/ASM129/Page3.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1966/vsnamor1f5ue.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9690/vsnamor1g1uk.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3382/vsnamor1c1wy.jpg

Reported for spamming now.

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner

you are so childish, i just show a scan where spider-man cant avoind knives that kraven throws at him to state that he cant avoid bullets and you start to post wolverine scans? things are really bad with you ❌