Kid Devil vs. Spiderman

Originally posted by lando005
i've read the wiki profile provided from what i gather he's too inexperianced to fight with an A-lister like spidy

but you never saw him in a fight, you don't even know how the hell he fights, how well can he control his fire? how well can he use his strength or speed? IMO you have to see the character in a fight first , enhanced strength and speed is nothing special if you don't have any fighting skills , but his fire breathing can be interesting, we don't know how well he can use it, hell look at pyro ... fire its all he has... but look how dangerous he is with it , so my point is that you have to see him in a fight first to decide , but i guess if you want to speculate then thats fine by me

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
but you never saw him in a fight, you don't even know how the hell he fights, how well can he control his fire? how well can he use his strength or speed? IMO you have to see the character in a fight first , enhanced strength and speed is nothing special if you don't have any fighting skills , but his fire breathing can be interesting, we don't know how well he can use it, hell look at pyro ... fire its all he has... but look how dangerous he is with it , so my point is that you have to see him in a fight first to decide , but i guess if you want to speculate then thats fine by me

does it really matter that he is not a vet? spider-man has his speed and strength but how good is that if you are just going to be toasted? as i said before you don't know the levels he can reach with his flames or how fast he can use that fire, heck he can burn the crap out of an entire city for all that i know, because we know nothing , he can breath fire with enough force to wipe down half city we don't really know that

you cant say spider-man moves faster then his fire , look even what cyclops can do with his optic blasts, cyclops has athletic feats but look how bad ass he is , as i said before until we will See how well can he use his powers IMO its pointless to say spider-man will take him

and by the way he has a healing factor which enables him to heal 10 times faster then a human

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
does it really matter that he is not a vet? spider-man has his speed and strength but how good is that if you are just going to be toasted? as i said before you don't know the levels he can reach with his flames or how fast he can use that fire, heck he can burn the crap out of an entire city for all that i know, because we know nothing , he can breath fire with enough force to wipe down half city we don't really know that

you cant say spider-man moves faster then his fire , look even what cyclops can do with his optic blasts, cyclops has athletic feats but look how bad ass he is , as i said before until we will See how well can he use his powers IMO its pointless to say spider-man will take him

Originally posted by lando005
we use the level he is at now

we have to use what we got at out disposal and right NOW he's not a threat

how do you know what are his powers right now? did he show them already? you stated yourself that you decide by this bio in wikipedia, wikipedia doesn't state how well and dangerous he can fight it just states his abilities thats all , listen there isn't really a point to debate here because there is nothing to debate with , he did NOT show his powers yet and thats why you just CANT say what he has NOW

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
how do you know what are his powers right now? did he show them already? you stated yourself that you decide by this bio in wikipedia, wikipedia doesn't state how well and dangerous he can fight it just states his abilities thats all , listen there isn't really a point to debate here because there is nothing to debate with , he did NOT show his powers yet and thats why you just CANT say what he has NOW

Originally posted by lando005
and who's to say he even has more power to show in the first place for all we know what we see is what we get that's why we have to go off what we know now

what we see is what we get? and what do we see? a bio that say he can breath fire has enhanced speed and strength and has healing factor 10 times faster then human? again i will ask you what DO we see? is that so hard for people to understand that you cant tell what he can do until he actually does something???

hell if i post it that way then cyclops can shoot optic blasts thats it 😕 , just optic blasts... if you read that you might think he is good for nothing, pyro can control fire but has the abilities of a regular man... if i read this i say he is not a big deal

is that to hard to understand that you don't even have a base to begin with?

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
what we see is what we get? and what do we see? a bio that say he can breath fire has enhanced speed and strength and has healing factor 10 times faster then human? again i will ask you what DO we see? is that so hard for people to understand that you cant tell what he can do until he actually does something???

hell if i post it that way then cyclops can shoot optic blasts thats it 😕 , just optic blasts... if you read that you might think he is good for nothing, pyro can control fire but has the abilities of a regular man... if i read this i say he is not a big deal

is that to hard to understand that you don't even have a base to begin with?

well then thats your opinion fine , i just stated why i think that we cant tell who is going to take it, but i wont tell you what to think man , i understand your side and that is reasonable point

I think Blue Devil and the whole of the ShadowPact is somewhat underrated as well, Jun.

And i think Kid Devil could be cool, if they gave him some magics and stuff, to go with the Devil part.

But i haven't seen anything from him to tell me he can beat Ultimate Spiderman, much less 616 Spidey.

Originally posted by Draco69
Kid Devil has been around for what? Three issues. He has alot more powers...it just hasn't been revealed yet.

We should put this thread on hold until he actually does something besides be a human cigarette lighter....

Exactally, but Kid Devil appeared in more than three issues when he donned that horrible armor

how does anybody know for a fact that he has more powers to be revealed? who's to say this isnt his max limit?

Originally posted by lando005
how does anybody know for a fact that he has more powers to be revealed? who's to say this isnt his max limit?

So far it seems like he has fire breath, enhanced strength and durability (it took plasmus a while to burn him) the ability to fly/glide , and a healing factor.
But we don't know how powerfull his abilities are at this point and time

However from what I've seen from him I'd say spidey would win 6-7/10.

However if Eddie can fly and not just glide shotr distances he may have a better chance of winning.

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