You have to understand the size of the number 50,000 before you say they can pull of such a feat. 50,000 orcs would take up a range of about 100 football fields full. You think those two have the range to be able to hit that many with one blast. I say they can take out 2,000 if that with a full out blast. So after like 4 or 5 full out blast they probably take out roughly 10,000 orcs. And after that their going to be exausted of their power until they can recharge and rest.
Originally posted by nimbus006
I'm not to versed on Nate Greys abilities, but i don't think he can do that.
Nate grey? absolutely. If cable in his omega form could hold a large island up, hear the thoughts of virtually the entire world, keep peoples immune systems boosted, amongst a few other things, nate grey could definately do much more. i was gona mention that too
Simply adding nate grey to this makes this a horrible overkill
I know he has incredible TP and TK ability, but he cannot control that many minds at one time. Their has to be some limitation to his power. Besides I'm not even that sure that TP would work on orcs seeing as how they answer to Sauron and only Sauron. Im not so sure, but I think Sauron put a spell on them when he created them that didnt allow them to be manipulated, plus their not human. Can telepaths get into the minds of animals? Im just wondering
Originally posted by nimbus006
I know he has incredible TP and TK ability, but he cannot control that many minds at one time. Their has to be some limitation to his power. Besides I'm not even that sure that TP would work on orcs seeing as how they answer to Sauron and only Sauron. Im not so sure, but I think Sauron put a spell on them when he created them that didnt allow them to be manipulated, plus their not human. Can telepaths get into the minds of animals? Im just wondering
Its not neccssairily his TP that makes him so nasty, his TK is outstanding
but to add to that
mind control wouldent be an objective, but detonateing the heads of thousands of orcs simotainously
Originally posted by nimbus006
I know he has incredible TP and TK ability, but he cannot control that many minds at one time. Their has to be some limitation to his power. Besides I'm not even that sure that TP would work on orcs seeing as how they answer to Sauron and only Sauron. Im not so sure, but I think Sauron put a spell on them when he created them that didnt allow them to be manipulated, plus their not human. Can telepaths get into the minds of animals? Im just wondering
He made everyone in New York forget about him, he has stopped time before, tore Xavier's Astral form out of the Astral realm.
Dude Nate was a God in the end of his series.
Once again he stomps them all in the time it takes to think it🙂
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Its not neccssairily his TP that makes him so nasty, his TK is outstandingbut to add to that
mind control wouldent be an objective, but detonateing the heads of thousands of orcs simotainously
Yes his TK would be an incredible asset to the team. Like i said in my first post all the heroes are overkill.
Sauron at full power as the OP stated, is beyond everyone on that list, their really is no comparison here.
Reality, time, space, soul, power, all these do not apply to the Mair or Valar in their true forms, they are beyond abstractuality.
The Valar in particular are the children of Illuvitar his creations, each with a piece of himself in them, they are Illuvitar as Illuvitar is them, limitless and un rivaled.
The Mair are the next step down from them.
Originally posted by nimbus006
Yes his TK would be an incredible asset to the team. Like i said in my first post all the heroes are overkill.
yeah exactly, you could debate the details of how it would go, but the overwhelming conclusion is there are far to many hard hitters for this to be that interesting
Originally posted by Jesse7
Sauron at full power as the OP stated, is beyond everyone on that list, their really is no comparison here.
He just gets dumped in an "in-between" dimension, Nate has done that before.
I guess no one kept up with Nate, at the end of his run he could do anything he could think of really.
Originally posted by Soleran
He just gets dumped in an "in-between" dimension, Nate has done that before.I guess no one kept up with Nate, at the end of his run he could do anything he could think of really.
Its silly to compare Nate, or even Galactus to a Maiar in true form and full power, and one such as Sauron before his fall.
They are beyond thoughts, abstractuality, power, dimensions, time, space, emotion, all meaningless to them, as they are the shapers of these things.
In a way everything is but a dream.
Originally posted by Jesse7OOOOOOO realy?
Sauron at full power as the OP stated, is beyond everyone on that list, their really is no comparison here.Reality, time, space, soul, power, all these do not apply to the Mair or Valar in their true forms, they are beyond abstractuality.
The Valar in particular are the children of Illuvitar his creations, each with a piece of himself in them, they are Illuvitar as Illuvitar is them, limitless and un rivaled.
The Mair are the next step down from them.
Originally posted by magneto1992
OOOOOOO realy?
Look, Ultimate versions of the current versions of the X-men destroy the whole LOTR universe, this whole enchila will kill everyone, Xavier froze everyone expt Thor, Hulk and Juggernaut, they kill everyone else. No need for anyone else, or Nate by herself.
you really are ignorant, as it isn't a universe in Tolkein's books.
Do not speak and claim right which you know nothing of, as you have shown with what you have posted.
You likely only watched the movies and never read any of the books before lotr, or even lotr for that matter.
Originally posted by Jesse7Every place is not our pace is a universe, and about the LOTR being destroy I meant in a danger room mision.
you really are ignorant, as it isn't even a universe in Tolkein's books.Do not speak and claim down as right which you know nothing of, as you have shown with what you have posted.
You likely only watched the movies and never read any of the books before lotr, or even lotr for that matter.
Originally posted by Jesse7You don't get the Idea do you?
This thread isnt about the danger room, nor does it take place in the danger room.