Love Never Dies

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
If Love is born it can also die....just like Hate can die as well.

I know a person who was once intensely racist, now he is accepting of other people's differences.

People change, and it is beyond thier control. You can truly love someone, and that love can die over time....a long time, but it can die...is the point.

Love isn't born, it's within us already. It comes standard. It's not created, it happens.

That's like saying the mind can die. -how could it when it was never born- The mind happens. Just as love does immortally.

And no, you can't truly love someone and have the love fade overtime. If that was the case, it wasn't love but a perceived version of it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So basically you want to redefine love to mean "A very strong liking for another person (or object...or subject) that does not end until the death of the like-er"?

Okay, well, I could agree with that (that's not the actual meaning, but who cares), but why would you want that to be the case? Or is this just about a special case called "true love"? Also, would it be alright for the love to end with the disappearance of the like-ee?

No, I do not want to redefine love nor did or do i intend to. A very strong liking or (vst) is a (vst) and love is love. a (Vst) dies or fades away over time then dies or what have you. It is love that is the element that does not end.

And, to me, love dying upon the demise person (or lover) is debatable. I'm not 100% sure as to whether or not said love carries on into an afterlife or another dimension of some sort because there's no evidence of the concept existing or not existing.

Originally posted by AOR
I agree. I believe each person has more than one true love. Not all to be met at once, but in certain situations with the previous one had faded.

I am in accord with about 60% of what you wrote because, again, love doesn't fade. Perceived love does.

Originally posted by King Kandy
How do you define the difference between "Love" and "Extreme liking"?

Good question.

I'd define the difference between both (true) love and an extreme liking as love being mountainous (monumental) and the other being horizonal (horizontal) with love being much more grander, more significant and on a much more larger in scale than an extreme liking is. Whereas with an extreme liking which can seem -and sometimes be- just as beautiful can be mostly flat and mortal. And conquerable. With love, love conquers all.

I see where you're coming from, and I agree with you. But the thing is, you can't argue with someone who hasn't really been in love, because it's only then that you can know what love really is. Not just a word.

Originally posted by lord xyz
My philosophy is true love doesn't exist. There's no such thing as "(true) love". It's all in your mind.

True love does exist and it's within you. Like I said It just need to happen.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Good question.

I'd define the difference between both (true) love and an extreme liking as love being mountainous (monumental) and the other being horizonal (horizontal) with love being much more grander, more significant and on a much more larger in scale than an extreme liking is. Whereas with an extreme liking which can seem -and sometimes be- just as beautiful can be mostly flat and mortal. And conquerable. With love, love conquers all.

Thus... This discusssion is a futile excersise in circular logic.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Then this is proposterous, because your definition was fabricated to fit your beliefs, and Visa-Versa.

Thus... This discusssion is a futile excersise in circular logic.

Wrong. He asked me how "I" would define the difference in-between love and an extreme liking. Not what the standard definition is. There really isn't one. Thus making your statement futile Mr. Kandy.

Seriously though, one person out there for everyone? It's as real as heaven. Something enlightening to help people get back up off their feet. Okay, you're lying to them and damaging their mind, but who cares aslong as they're happy?

I dont believe, at all, in the love of a man.

Their "love" only last one day, perhaps the biggest true love of their life last one week, but then.. they "fall deeply in love" of another woman.

That´s is not love at all. That why men do not love, at all.

A woman instead, yes, she can love forever.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I am in accord with about 60% of what you wrote because, again, love doesn't fade. Perceived love does.

By faded I mean gone, not that it was forgotten but the "love" or "lover" has faded away. Memory I wouldn't consider because nothing can truly be "forgotten". What I meant to say is, if a man/woman loses their spouse, chances are there is a another person meant for them out in the world. I would even go to say that they would be closer than they think. Hence when I said

not all to meant at once, but in different situations in the person's life

Originally posted by Thorin
I dont believe, at all, in the love of a man.

Their "love" only last one day, perhaps the biggest true love of their life last one week, but then.. they "fall deeply in love" of another woman.

That´s is not love at all. That why men do not love, at all.

A woman instead, yes, she can love forever.

that's not the most biased thing ever since the KKK! *sarcasm*

I believe that love is a deep respect or an affection to a particular person. I think that once you fall in love with someone, there probably is a way that you can convert this love into hate or whatever emotion that may arise if the potential is there, However, I'm inclined to think that it's hard to lose feelings for someone that you love. When I say lose feelings for someone, I mean to a lesser degree and not totally. It's possible in my opinion, but very unlikely, because if you 'truly' love something then, you find it extremely hard to not respect him or her, and not view them without affection or liking. I fell in love with a girl that was in one of my classes in my Freshman year in High School, and I can't say that my love for her has diminished in it's entirety, but to a certain point. Just enough for me to say that I still do like her a lot, but not love her anymore like I had used to. Love for me is hard to understand, because it keeps such a grip on your perception of the world in which you interact with.

Originally posted by Thorin
I dont believe, at all, in the love of a man.

Their "love" only last one day, perhaps the biggest true love of their life last one week, but then.. they "fall deeply in love" of another woman.

That´s is not love at all. That why men do not love, at all.

A woman instead, yes, she can love forever.

^ Wow is all I have to say. Do you truly think that men can only love women for a short time and then just forget about them like they were nothing to them?

About FotN's topic.

I think that if you fall in love with someone that love stays there in your mind and you never forget it. But even if you love someone and they love you back, your togetherness is not always certian. If you truly do love someone that feeling about them should never leave you. I still love one of the first girls I ever had a long term relationship with, we may not be together anymore but my love for her hasn't died.

well, like anything worth having, Love is something you have to work at. you can't just make someone love you and then assume it's going to stay that way and complain later when they leave you and then claim True Love doesn't exist

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
No, I do not want to redefine love nor did or do i intend to. A very strong liking or (vst) is a (vst) and love is love. a (Vst) dies or fades away over time then dies or what have you. It is love that is the element that does not end.

And, to me, love dying upon the demise person (or lover) is debatable. I'm not 100% sure as to whether or not said love carries on into an afterlife or another dimension of some sort because there's no evidence of the concept existing or not existing.

So basically you say no, and then claim exactly what I said you were claiming? Interesting.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
If you think you've loved someone or something and you don't anymore it's because you never had love for him, her or it in he first place. It was just a deep liking that faded. True love for someone or something in actuality lasts. That's when you know it's genuine love.

My philosophy is that true love never dies.

No. You're very wrong. True love can die.

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Originally posted by FistOfThe North
If you think you've loved someone or something and you don't anymore it's because you never had love for him, her or it in he first place. It was just a deep liking that faded. True love for someone or something in actuality lasts. That's when you know it's genuine love.

My philosophy is that true love never dies.

Originally posted by Kelly_LS
I never stopped loving Daniel and I never will, though we're not together anymore.

Originally posted by Terrorist
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