Do Christian's really believe in one god?

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Do Christian's really believe in one god?

A topic brought up in World Religions that to me was very interesting. I'm just looking for feed back into what people think.

My questions- Is believeing in the devil polytheistic? Why wouldn't god just vanquish him if god were so omnipotent?

The classic Problem of Evil debacle. The existence of Satan shows that godis neither omnipotent or perfectly good or both.

For most religions to work there must be dualism..........evil and good fighting.

Re: Do Christian's really believe in one god?

Originally posted by Zero25
A topic brought up in World Religions that to me was very interesting. I'm just looking for feed back into what people think.

My questions- Is believeing in the devil polytheistic? Why wouldn't god just vanquish him if god were so omnipotent?

You and templares have a good point. Either the devil is alos omnipotent or God tolarates his existance, meaning god wants people to suffer.

Not to mention, but many branches of Christianity are trinitarian, meaning the Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost are all seperate faces of the same god, alá Hinduism. THese brnaches of Christianity are at least Henothesitic, even if you exculd ethe devil problem.

Re: Do Christian's really believe in one god?

Originally posted by Zero25

My questions- Is believeing in the devil polytheistic? Why wouldn't god just vanquish him if god were so omnipotent?

Some say the devil is an agent used by god to test mens faith, so god's basically malicious. He needs entertainment, he gets bored up in heaven.

Another likely scenario.

Re: Re: Do Christian's really believe in one god?

Originally posted by Alliance
You and templares have a good point. Either the devil is alos omnipotent or God tolarates his existance, meaning god wants people to suffer.

Not to mention, but many branches of Christianity are trinitarian, meaning the Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost are all seperate faces of the same god, alá Hinduism. THese brnaches of Christianity are at least Henothesitic, even if you exculd ethe devil problem.

Would'nt that be polytheism in a sense though. Because your not just believing in one God. Your believing in a trinity meaning god is three things not just one.

No, because its three persona's of one God. Many faces for one being.

Same as Hinduism.

Hence the term Henotheism (becuase its still one god, but not one being)

Originally posted by Alliance
No, because its three persona's of one God. Many faces for one being.

Same as Hinduism.

Hence the term Henotheism (becuase its still one god, but not one being)

Understood. But what about the devil who is a seperate being.

Well, if you accept the devil is another god argument (which I don't) then Christianity is a unique combination of polytheism.

Don't forget, certain sects buy one argument and not others, so all permutations are considered accurate.

I've heard the argument that the devil is yet antoher face of god, hsi dark side so to speak.

Since god created angels (apparently) and in omnipotent (apparently) I feel that he chose Lucifer and in essence commanded him to create hell. God controls the "devil" in my book. But then again, I'm not Christian and never really was.

Originally posted by Alliance
Well, if you accept the devil is another god argument (which I don't) then Christianity is a unique combination of polytheism.

Don't forget, certain sects buy one argument and not others, so all permutations are considered accurate.

I've heard the argument that the devil is yet antoher face of god, hsi dark side so to speak.

Since god created angels (apparently) and in omnipotent (apparently) I feel that he chose Lucifer and in essence commanded him to create hell. God controls the "devil" in my book. But then again, I'm not Christian and never really was.

These are good feedback info. Now all we do is wait for JIA.

Joy.

This verse presents the most shocking revelation in the entire Bible. On the very last page, it reveals Jesus as the "bright and morning star". In other words, Lucifer-- Satan!

In Isaiah 14:12, St. Jerome, translated the Hebrew "morning star" into the Latin term "Lucifer" (light bearer), a name commonly ascribed to Satan by Christians, and represents the fallen star, an ancient symbol for the fallen or evil one. The mourning star actually appears as the planet Venus, the brightest "star" in the sky (but the ancients did not know about planets). Venus always appears low on the horizon, thus it looked like a fallen star (fallen angel) to the believers.

Although the Isaiah verse describes the fallen king of Babylon, Christians have, for centuries, ascribed Satan as taking many forms. And what more powerful form could an evil being take than to pretend himself as the saviour of the world? This would certainly explain the hate filled verses attributed to Jesus and the blind followers who inherit ignorance. Thus, a conclusion, based on Christian beliefs of Satan, and the belief in the "inerrancy" of the Bible, one must conclude that Jesus has revealed himself as Satan!

What a Revelation!

http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/skepticism/origin_lucifer.html

hope someone at least can read this

Satan and the Bible
Summary of the role played by Satan in the Scriptures

The perfect being
Satan’s Fall
The Five “I Wills” of Rebellion
The Apocalypse

Satan operates on Earth
Jesus saved us from Satan

Satan and the Bible
There is no full account of Satan given in any one place, and the Scripture teaching on this topic can only be ascertained by combining a number of scattered notices from Genesis to Apocalypse, and reading them in the light of patristic and theological tradition.

Almost absent in the Old Testament, the Devil is mentionned 188 times in the New Testament :

62 as a “demon”
36 as “Satan”
33 as the “Devil”
37 as a “Beast”
13 as a “Dragon”
7 as “Belzeebuth”
http://demons.monstrous.com/the_bible.htm#bible

And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him." (I Samuel 16:23)

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Here it specifically describes an evil spirit from God!

Satan at that time in history meant advorsary...........Everyone was called satan if you didn't belive in their way. The NT scriptures were written during the "war of the Jews" and you must read it to understand what was being meant by this.

Jesus is Venus?

Yes the bright and morning star...........

Venus.

Originally posted by Alliance
No, because its three persona's of one God. Many faces for one being.

That's exactly my opinon of the Trinity.

Yes the first star seen at night though not really a star and later Satan was also called that......hmm

I can find the scripture if you want

Originally posted by debbiejo
Yes the first star seen at night though not really a star and later Satan was also called that......hmm

What the hell are you talking about?

The references bwteen the "Satan" and "The Morning Star"