Ryu and Terry Bogard vs M. Bison and Wolfgang Krauser
The Ansatsuken warrior and the Wild Wolf have some serious problems. The Shadowlaw boss and the Stroheim nobleman has joined forces to try and take them out.
But instead of Bison and Krauser going after their respective rivals, it's vice versa. Bison will fight Terry while Ryu will fight Krauser.
Stage: Osaka Arena, CvSNK2
Let's assume that Snafu put all of them at their highest levels of power. For Bison, that's SFA3, with Psycho Drive. Krauser, Neo Geo Battle Coliseum. Ryu, SF3: 3rd Impact. And Terry, KOFXI.
Gameplay: Bad guys. I like Terry and Ryu, but Krauser not only has a deadly rave super, but he has 3 possible enders, one of which is his gigantic cyclone dm, which doesn't burn anymore stocks. Bison, at SFA3, was insanely strong. We all agree Shin Bison was incredibly strong and his psycho drive crusher was insane.
HOWEVER, if we use a less powerful Bison, from CVS2, for example, then it's harder to call. I still think Krauser can take Ryu gameplaywise. Bison vs. Terry is really hard to call. On Tiers, Bison is clearly stronger, but with good gaming, Terry could win. I think it would come down to whose super has priority.
Storywise, with Shin Bison, bad guys. With CVS2 Bison, Good guys, but very hard battle.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Let's assume that Snafu put all of them at their highest levels of power. For Bison, that's SFA3, with Psycho Drive. Krauser, Neo Geo Battle Coliseum. Ryu, SF3: 3rd Impact. And Terry, KOFXI.Gameplay: Bad guys. I like Terry and Ryu, but Krauser not only has a deadly rave super, but he has 3 possible enders, one of which is his gigantic cyclone dm, which doesn't burn anymore stocks. Bison, at SFA3, was insanely strong. We all agree Shin Bison was incredibly strong and his psycho drive crusher was insane.
HOWEVER, if we use a less powerful Bison, from CVS2, for example, then it's harder to call. I still think Krauser can take Ryu gameplaywise. Bison vs. Terry is really hard to call. On Tiers, Bison is clearly stronger, but with good gaming, Terry could win. I think it would come down to whose super has priority.
Storywise, with Shin Bison, bad guys. With CVS2 Bison, Good guys, but very hard battle.
Good Analysis
Thanks P. Slight mistake. I meant Fatal Fury:Real Bout for Krauser. He's not in NGBC. sweat Oops.
Off topic for a sec, Krauser's gotten screwed. He hasn't been in an snk game since KOF96 and Real bout. BRING BACK THE EARL OF STROLHEIM! 96' BOSS TEAM! 96' BOSS TEAM! 96' BOSS TEAM! Seriously, he was a great character. Mr. Big gets to come back, but not Krauser? Gip.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Ryu & Terry for the win. Either of them could beat Krauser, but I don't see Terry beating Bison. Ryu'd have to help him after he finished Krauser off
Game wise, Bison falls victim to repeated and well timed Crack shots. It works for me all the time. Ryu can beat the real bout krauser, if Terry did YEARS ago.
Only an idiot playing Bison would lose because of one tactic. Bison is considered the #4 character in CVS2. Behind A-groove Sakura at 3, any groove Sagat at 2 and Blanka at 1. RC Psycho crusher storms through crack shoot.
2nd, Terry barely beat Krauser. Krauser had been resting on his laurels for a long time before Terry beat him. Krauser is one of the top guys in the KOF world, it's just that SNK hasn't had him in a game for a long time. Krauser, as P-Geyser could tell you, is a monster in the games he is in. Krauser is at least twice as strong as he was when Terry beat him.
Terry is that much stronger now too though. He'd fustigate Krauser
Originally posted by shin_remyPretty much. I think Bison's being slept on here. Terry just ain't beating him by himself & Ryu probably wouldn't either. If he did, he'd have a reealy hard time doing it. Bison is very powerful. Don't think he's weak just 'cause Akuma'd f**k him up
Well i don't think Terry or Ryu can defeat M.Bison
Ryu and Terry can beat Krauser.If Krauser is defeated by Ryu OR Terry and they are going to tagteam to beat M.Bison, then they will beat M.Bison
Well, Bison wasn't at full power when Gouki killed him, and 2nd, Ryu never fought Bison at his full power. Gouki ****s everyone up. There isn't a fighter in SF with the exception of Oro who's on his level. And Oro is up in the air as far as we know. Gouki also ****ed up Gill, but he left without seeing Gill ressurect from the shun goku satsu. And Bison is stated by Capcom as being more powerful than Gill when he was at full strength. Bison is being slept on because people equate him with the SF2 or the CVS2 Bison. We're talking SFA Bison, maybe even Street Fighter: the animated movie Bison in terms of power. No way Ryu beats this guy easily. Terry could do well, but even he would have to go all out to beat Shin Bison. And his winning is sure as hell not set in stone.
I must be the only one seeing Ryu and Terry losing. Ryu has teamed up against Bison and fallen many times. I don't see him quite that level yet, or Terry for that matter. I'm even willing to argue that an angry Bison can put them both down.
Ryu sure isn't on Gill's level.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Well, Bison wasn't at full power when Gouki killed him, and 2nd, Ryu never fought Bison at his full power. Gouki ****s everyone up. There isn't a fighter in SF with the exception of Oro who's on his level. And Oro is up in the air as far as we know. Gouki also ****ed up Gill, but he left without seeing Gill ressurect from the shun goku satsu. And Bison is stated by Capcom as being more powerful than Gill when he was at full strength. Bison is being slept on because people equate him with the SF2 or the CVS2 Bison. We're talking SFA Bison, maybe even Street Fighter: the animated movie Bison in terms of power. No way Ryu beats this guy easily. Terry could do well, but even he would have to go all out to beat Shin Bison. And his winning is sure as hell not set in stone.
I agree.
Originally posted by aysongailHe's not beating Bison. Bison is on a H.N.L. Geese only lost because he underestimated Terry.
IMO Terry Can beat Bison Y?
Terry Beat Geese single handedly
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterI'm starting to lean towards this also. I said from the start that Bison was being underestimated. Terry would lose to Bison & Wolfgang would lose to Ryu. Bison will likely have less damage than Ryu will anyway. Bison could take this. Still, If Ryu could somehow finish off Krauser before Bison could finish off Terry, Bison may have a rough time dealing w/the both of them together
I must be the only one seeing Ryu and Terry losing. Ryu has teamed up against Bison and fallen many times. I don't see him quite that level yet, or Terry for that matter. I'm even willing to argue that an angry Bison can put them both down.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Only an idiot playing Bison would lose because of one tactic. Bison is considered the #4 character in CVS2. Behind A-groove Sakura at 3, any groove Sagat at 2 and Blanka at 1. RC Psycho crusher storms through crack shoot.2nd, Terry barely beat Krauser. Krauser had been resting on his laurels for a long time before Terry beat him. Krauser is one of the top guys in the KOF world, it's just that SNK hasn't had him in a game for a long time. Krauser, as P-Geyser could tell you, is a monster in the games he is in. Krauser is at least twice as strong as he was when Terry beat him.
Well I bet i could beat you with bison. Bison doesnt do well against terry (espeically the cpu) and ive played some pretty good bison players. they cant touch my terry.
As I pointed out, Snafu did not tell which version and power levels he was using. IF HE WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO STEP IN *hint hint*, we could find out which Bison, Ryu, etc, etc, he meant. The whole fight is really riding on Bison. There is a huge difference between SFA3 Bison and CVS2 Bison. We know how strong Krauser is, and how strong Ryu and Terry are. Krauser can probably beat Ryu, Terry is harder to call. The two are relatively equal. Contrary to popular belief, Terry beating Krauser again is not a certainty. Ryu is probably at SF3: 3rd Impact level. Which puts on par with Krauser, maybe slightly more powerful.
But none of them are more powerful than Bison at his max.
So...., will the real Major Snafu, please stand up and tell us which Bison it is?
Originally posted by shin_remy
Well i don't think Terry or Ryu can defeat M.Bison
Ryu and Terry can beat Krauser.If Krauser is defeated by Ryu OR Terry and they are going to tagteam to beat M.Bison, then they will beat M.Bison
Terry and Ryu have to tagteam to beat m.Bison. or else they have no chance